Yosef Hausakluif Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 So if I take 10 wolfguard, 5 of which are in TDA and with a HQ slot as their retnue, and the rest of the other 4 are in PA and are used as pack leaders, can 2 of the WG in TDA have assault cannons then, as the pack is 10 men strong? I don;t see why not, but wanted some feedback before I build.... Thanks for the help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 If you have 10 Wolf Guard on the table, period, you can have 2 heavy weapons, regardless of mixed armaments or how they're split up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 So if I take 10 wolfguard, 5 of which are in TDA and with a HQ slot as their retnue, and the rest of the other 4 are in PA and are used as pack leaders, can 2 of the WG in TDA have assault cannons then, as the pack is 10 men strong? I don;t see why not, but wanted some feedback before I build.... Thanks for the help! Your question contains a highlighted part which make no sense. I think the answer to the remainder of your question is - If a pack of 5 TDA Wolf Guard and 5 PA Wolf Guard are bought then two of the TDA models may take Assault Cannons, even if some are later assigned to other Packs using the Pack Leaders rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I think the answer to your question is no. If you have 9 WG and 1 HQ then you can only have the 1 heavy weapon. You need 10 WG in the pack (though some can be split off to lead other packs) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Yes, what Heimdall said. You can have two heavy weapons for 10 WG selected in a pack. So you take 10 WG regardless of your IC selection. After you select the 10 you can assign them all to packs if you want(if you have ten packs to add them to) or make them one big pack with the HQ. The key thing to remember is 1 Heavy per every 5 WG. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosef Hausakluif Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Okay, so you have cleared things up a bit, I think. I can have 2 heavy weapons if all 10 WG are in the same pack, BUT NOT if 5 of them are pack leaders and 5 other are together as a squad in TDA, EVEN if they are all of the same Elite slot/pack. I guess I was trying to get away with a bit much there and thank you for the wisdom! I remember the 4th ed. days and the old dex when I used to run x2 assautl cannons and x3 combi plasmas WG in TDA and drop them in front of anything and say goodbye! Oh well, maybe I'll take the cyclone then and not the assault cannon... Regardless thank you fore the help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 If you have 10 wolf guard you can take 2 hvy weapons, regardless of whether some of them split off as pack leaders or not. So IF you have 10 WG and 5 split off as wgpl's then the other 5 in TDA could in fact carry 2 asscans...if I understood you correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaScotius Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Remember that your Wolf Guard are split off to lead Packs at the time of deployment, so when you're putting your army list together, they're actually all part of the same Pack. Provided that the Pack of Wolf Guard numbers 10 men (in Terminator or Power Armour) at the time you put your army list together, they can have the two Assault Cannons. Once you're deploying your army, you can split the individual Wolf Guard off to lead different Packs. Hope this helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 How was my first response so unclear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 because it implies that you can have 2 units of 5, and in one of those units of 5 you can have 2 asscans. when in fact you need 1 pack of 10 to have 2 TDA heavy weapons at all. then if you wanted a unit of 5 in TDA with 2asscans and the other 5 to be pack leaders you are groovy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 How was my first response so unclear? Because "on the table period" isn't the same as the required 10 WG in a single pack when buying the army For the OP you can split up the pack however you want after you buy legal army. You could even assign 8 as pack leaders and leave 2 in tda with heavy weapons as a 2 man WG pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Fair enough. I can't think of any (good) reason to not go to 10 before making a second pack, so my answer was based off that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosef Hausakluif Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Wu Disband, my bad, as I understood what you replied, but then became concerned that maybe I was not clear in my intention to have one 10 man pack and not 2 separate 5 man packs .... So, long story short, I will be taking a full ten man pack of WG , some as a body guard to my WLAN and some as pack leaders to GHs and BC squads. Thanks!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Basically, when you take a pack of WG, you get a bunch of loose models that you can divide up into squad leaders. Any you dont want to make leaders, become a unit. For every entry of WG you have in your list is considered a pack, no matter where they are on the board and you buy weapons accordingly. Remember you can only make one unit per FO slot, and you need at least 3 WG for every slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3201774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Yeah its a nice little bonus you could have 2 WG in TDA and 8 in PA and still have the two heavy weapons :woot: Now with mixed saves you can mix your squads to get the right number of PA and TDA in a wolf guard squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3202006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogg Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I may have been making a severe error. If I take a unit of 3 WG as 1 elite slot, can i make 1 a WGTDA w CML? Or Must i make the unit 5 strong before having access to the heavy weap? **brainfart** Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3203537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I may have been making a severe error. If I take a unit of 3 WG as 1 elite slot, can i make 1 a WGTDA w CML? Or Must i make the unit 5 strong before having access to the heavy weap? **brainfart** Must be 5 models strong to take the heavy weapon. ''Per 5 models'' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3203539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Well this will give me a good idea for a wgtda bodyguard for my lord. But It will be more of a apoc load out then normal game . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3203584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdogg Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I may have been making a severe error. If I take a unit of 3 WG as 1 elite slot, can i make 1 a WGTDA w CML? Or Must i make the unit 5 strong before having access to the heavy weap? **brainfart** Must be 5 models strong to take the heavy weapon. ''Per 5 models'' I reckongize my failing, and will be sure to correct it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3203629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helosv Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hello, I would say, it will depend of how many slots you have: 2 Asscns can be held with a 1*10 WG team or 2*5 WG team.. After, your choise will be leaded by what you want to have aside them... Dreadnoughts, scouts, ... A 10WG team gives you the possibility to send a part of them as team leaders, with keeping a WG team strong enough. PS: excuse my english, but I am French... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3207092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I'm pretty sure the wolf guard battle leader adds to the wolf guard count? So 9 wolf guard +wolf guard battle leader would give you two heavy weapons? Or does the fact its now an HQ choice negate that? Please clarify. GS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3207118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 A wolf guard battle leader is not one of the unit options in the wolf guard unit entry he is an IC with his own unit entry. Selections of wolf guard and their options are made prior to deployment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262784-wolf-guard/#findComment-3207130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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