I_Heart_69 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Are successor chapters ever allowed to wear their parent-chapter's heraldry? I know that chapters going on crusades might put a little icon somewhere on their armor, but would the parent chapter possibly grant them the right to use it as their primary symbol? For example, could an IF successor chapter use the fist icon on their shoulderpads and banners? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 A token or icon seems more likely, but it could depend on the disposition of the Chapter. A more liberal one might lend their heraldry as a 'blessing' to their successor. I don't think I would attribute an act like that to a legion chapter, but that's just my perspective. Do you have a particular primogenitor in mind? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Heart_69 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 I was thinking the Imperial Fists, but it does seem doubtful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoros Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Crimson Fists. Subjugators. Both use the Imperial Fists' fist symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Heart_69 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Oh cool - thanks for the help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hahaha, nothing against Crimson Fists, but I can see why they would share their heraldry, being near extinct and all. No less awesome, just 'in the marketing game'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoDraconumNigrorum Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I know that the Ultramarines and their Successors are pretty close. The Sons of Guilliman have not only adopted the name of the Ultramarines Primarch and the colour blue, but they also have incorperated the Ultramarines insignia into their own badge too. Also, the Doom Eagles banner on this website has the Ultramarines insignia incorperated in it. (Yes its fan made, but anyhow....) - EgoDraconumNigrorum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus of Baal Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 In my experience, Successor Chapter iconography is very often a derivation of the founding Chapter's iconography, most notably with the Blood Angels and their successors. Given rampant similarity, it's kinds ridiculous to think that there wouldn't be any instances of the exact same images appearing on some armor/vehicles/etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3203885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I know that the Ultramarines and their Successors are pretty close. The Sons of Guilliman have not only adopted the name of the Ultramarines Primarch and the colour blue, but they also have incorperated the Ultramarines insignia into their own badge too. Also, the Doom Eagles banner on this website has the Ultramarines insignia incorperated in it. (Yes its fan made, but anyhow....) - EgoDraconumNigrorum In my experience, Successor Chapter iconography is very often a derivation of the founding Chapter's iconography, most notably with the Blood Angels and their successors. Given rampant similarity, it's kinds ridiculous to think that there wouldn't be any instances of the exact same images appearing on some armor/vehicles/etc. Honest to goodness fluff background trumps my 2 cents any day. Lets see that IF successor, I_Heart Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/262940-inheriting-heraldry/#findComment-3205493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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