lilloser Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The Primarch Sanguinius Lord of the Blood Angels http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x450/LilLoser2011/P1020676.jpg http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x450/LilLoser2011/P1020699.jpg http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x450/LilLoser2011/P1020694.jpg http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x450/LilLoser2011/P1020677.jpg In celebration of Forgeworld's release of Angron, the Red Angel and the Horus Heresy supplements I thought it auspicious that my Primarch conversion is complete. Further design notes and bigger pictures can be found here Any comments or criticisms will be warmly received. LilLoser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: That's bloody AMAZING!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 This is a very nicely executed model. My only crit would be he's a little womanly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schultzhoffen Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Agreed with Darklighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinvs Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Excellent work! My only crit would be he's a little womanly. Absolutely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reckoning Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Excellent work! My only crit would be he's a little womanly. Absolutely agree with you. What they said. Still an absolutely amazing model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsox Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hey Lil, Regards this: Excellent work! My only crit would be he's a little womanly. Absolutely agree with you. What they said. Still an absolutely amazing model. I wouldn't worry about it. Most of his brothers thought exactly the same thing. Fantastic conversion, I love the massive dynamic you have going with the wings. Od. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The miniature is exctremely well done, looks fantastic, but again I echo that it's ended up looking a little feminine (think the base mini is female though, right? I wouldn't worry about it. Most of his brothers thought exactly the same thing. :P since when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Saturnus Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 He DOES look a little dainty... However its an excellent conversion. I applaud you for your work, good Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Fantastic model, I wish I also would have him to, he still is @ the Ebay sometimes. Great paint job to. Allround, a perfect Sanguinius. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmitt. Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I like his features and build. They work exceptionally well - Sanguinius is supposed to be beautiful, gracile above all of his brothers; if the base mini is female, it was evidently a canny choice IMHO. Those wings are just exceptional. Nice touch with the blood angel's feet not quite touching the soil. My one criticism is that I think the fur draped over his shoulder blends in too much with the wings and is a bit visually confusing - the change in colour and texture is subtle, and I think it could do with the leopard spot pattern it's usually depicted with. Otherwise this is possibly the best primarch model I've seen. It's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The miniature is exctremely well done, looks fantastic, but again I echo that it's ended up looking a little feminine (think the base mini is female though, right? I wouldn't worry about it. Most of his brothers thought exactly the same thing. :) since when? Since forever...none of them had the heart to say so :) OT: Your modelling skills are truly first rate LL, it is a really cool model and awesomely executed technique despite the feminine aspect. The head is brilliant, the weapon sublime, your paintjob is up to it's usual awesome standard and the wings are wicked. Get those legs apart so he can fly like a man and look less like he needs a toilet stop and you've got him nailed. I don't mean to come across rude, I don't know how else to say it. Sorry. stobz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TattooedGreenMan Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I must say that this rendition of the primarch is an inspiration. Love this representaton. He is very graceful and beautiful. I have started sketching my ideas for the primarch using true scale techniques to make him bigger than regular Space Marine. I love the fact that you used tomb kings bits for the halo. Where did you get the wings? I am wanting to play him in a game since I found the rules for using primarchs in an apocolypse game. Keep up the good work. I would love to see you do a build of the Emperor maybe use the painting of the fall of Sangunius as inspiration. The Emperor looks kick a in that painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Saturnus Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Good insights. I find myself liking his gracefulness and posture more and more with every time I look at it and every informative post. Again REALLY incredible job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I'll echo what others have said. All around a very awesome model with nice painting to boot. You should be proud of yourself. :tu: However, for me the model tends to be a bit too feminine. I think the model could have used more bulk and a more aggressive pose. But that is just my opinion and I never could do anything like this. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Look at dem birthin' hips. That is one girly Sanguinius. Slap a pair of knockers on that sucker, and she'll be a perfect Sanguinia. Great paint job though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think this is absoluteky amazing. Its fantastic. Personally, I think the feminine look really does set off the Sanguinus look. If he was more butch, I'm pretty sure the comment would be "he's not... Pretty enough"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 The problem with saying he's supposed to be pretty isn't a good reason for him being girly. As men we see women as pretty, but women see men as pretty for very different reasons. (no I'm not taking homosexuality into account as that would just get silly). I still think it's an extrealy nice model, but Sanguinius it's not (IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Look at dem birthin' hips. That is one girly Sanguinius. Slap a pair of knockers on that sucker, and she'll be a perfect Sanguinia. Great paint job though. HA! That's exactly what I thought. Paint job is great, but the conversion overall seems a tad off. The lithe build might work for Fulgrim, but doesn't really sell Sanguinius for me. Majestic and angelic does not mean feminine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilloser Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Cheers guys. The model is getting a nice response with the common complaint of it looks too girly. The placement of the legs would naturally push the panels of the thigh armour from the body creating a false outline of the abdominal area. A note on the model and painting. Everybody has their own opinion in how these strong characters should be modelled and represented on the battlefield. These opinions are quite often entrenched in childhood memories and evoke quite strong reactions when presented with a piece of work that doesn't match their ideal of that character. Further to this, we all carry an image of these epic heroes at different periods of their lives. Sanguinius at the height of the siege of terra would have a different aspect to the Sanguinius of Ullanor. Not only that, but consolidating official paintings, images and textual information, when such information is on flux is a challenging process and requires a certain amount of artistic interpretation. I have made the choices that I feel best serve the character of Sanguinius. I wanted a luminous, transcendent being that is far removed from the grudging desperation of warfare. There is a common troupe among heresy / pre heresey armies for very dirty weathered models (which I am a huge fan of). However, for a being who can be described as luminous, dirty armour didn't seem to fit. The armour had been painted with Vallejo liquid gold and shaded with oil washes. I thank each and every one of you who has taken the time to write a reply to my humble project and I ask that, even if you don't agree with the choices I've made, that you keep posting up in the same friendly and respectful manner. So please no more posts like olgerth istaarn's; I don't know if this was a light hearted response (which I assume it was) as the tone in which it was written cannot be translated via text alone. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TattooedGreenMan Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I would love to recreate these images in model form. http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg637/GreenManDruid/Sanguinius_siege_of_terra.jpg http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg637/GreenManDruid/fat_sanguinius_by_inkary-d50zgzk-1.jpg Also would love to see you recreate the Emperor from this painting. http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg637/GreenManDruid/Horus_Sanguinius_Emperor.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilloser Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 @ tattoedgreenman; I'd love to tackle those subjects but right now I have other projects on the horizon (but they do involve blood angels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sanguin Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Love the ode to the original Sanguinius although he is now considered to have black hair instead of blonde. All the old material showed him with blonde hair so I think you made the right choice with the blonde. As far as him being too feminine, I completely disagree. I think this model is fantastic and I wouldn't hesitate to field it with my army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The first picture in TattooedGreenMan's post should be a gold standard for Sanguinius. None of the fancy prancy crap. "Hello, my name is Sanguinius, I'm a massive angel in power armor, and I'm here to stomp your ass into dust." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Spectre Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Impressive work on the gold armour. I was going to ask how you'd done it. I admire NMM but know I'm not quite up to trying it till I improve my blending. I also find that NMM can look great from a single viewing angle, but look odd on the table top. I get the impression that this model looks good from all angles. As for the scuplt, I don't see the female aspect others talk of. The ratio of shoulder to hips is masculine, and so are the proportions of the face. Having lower legs crossed one behind the other would make the extended thigh armor deviate out. He is of a more slim build, less bulky than most SM models but I still think he looks masculine. In that he reminds me of the Sigvald Chaos champion Warhammer miniature. In my imagination, at least, not all the primarchs were proportioned like bodybuilding steroidal he-men. I know they are described as being head-and shoulders taller than marines, but that doesn't say anything about whether they had similarly bulky proportions. I'm re-reading First Heretic at the moment, and Lorgar is described as being quite slender in his build. I imagine Sanguinius would also be of a more slender athletic build. If Dante's helm is meant to be the death-mask of Sanguinous, the facial proportions look consistent with this model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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