MaleOpener Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Good evening. As the title states, I'm looking for advice against the Necrons, using our new codex. All suggestions are welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Any particular army build you want to use? Any idea what kind of Necron lists you'll be up against? Basic advise is we can out assault them most of the time and they can out shoot us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Forgefiend! IDs wraiths(plasmahead perhaps to put some wounds on the lord accompanying them), fair chance of hitting fliers, nice range(out of range of gauss), good survivability... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I would avoid getting anything with AV. Necrons will tear it apart. Long range weapons are similarly unreliable thanks to nightfighting. Minigun is correct- closing as quickly as possible and taking advantage of their poor initiative in CC is critical. Dark gods be with you if they are using flier spam. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Spawns wouldn't be too bad. Maulerfiends actually might be nice as they'd probably close with the enemy before the Crons could shoot at it and their CC is pretty bad overall. Hellchicken is also a pretty decent option as well. Warptalons wouldn't be bad either as most Cron stuff is 3+. Basically most assault oriented units are optimal against Necrons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I don't know the lists, but Jes Goodwin took his Black Legion up against the Necrons earlier according to this article and got curbstomped hard. Several times, it seems. I haven't faced them yet in this edition nor with this Codex, but I have my own indecisions about how I'd go about dealing with them. I wish I knew what sort of list Jes took to get a better read on what he did/didn't bring. The picture at the bottom gives a couple of clues but not the whole story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaleOpener Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Thank you for the advice so far ... Main problems so far are the new fliers, barges, and arks. Their weakness in CC I knew about, but would troops in rhinos be a good idea, or should I stick with the maulerfiends and raptors/warp talons? Would oblitz be a better option, over havocs? Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.darkness Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Well, you really need some anti air because most really good necron lists wil have 2+ fliers. Some will have more, but a lot will have 2-3. Unless you have a very specific army list then you cannot really ignore them. Flakk havocs are quite good here because they are only av 11, unlike those darned imperial fliers... Terrain an also be useful, and also Your helldake with flamer, because they are again only av11, and the flamer will eat immortals and warriors alike. Forge fiends also ave a lot of s8 shots. CC is your friend, but getting lose could be hard, and also be wary of any counter assault it's that they have. I could be wraiths, or even praetorians/lychguard, but just be wary that you don't charge some tiny warrior squad, just to be obliterated by the wraith squad behind them. They are vulnerable to s8, so missile launchers ad forge finds are good. You will also have to be able to deal with large amounts of av13 if he chooses to bring that. Melta, las cannons, mass S8. It is better to shoot with stuff that can one first, because then you will get rid of the shields, so your strength 7 and 6 stuff can deal with it. Rhinos will be good, but so will anything that is fast, or can infiltrate , or basically get close without being obliterated by shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 against scythwing even with an aegis and two havock units we are at a disadventage. it is just a better codex. not much we can do about it , unless you want to tailor , but those armies dont work well against other problem armies [sW/IG mainly] . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263021-new-codex-vs-necrons-advice-needed/#findComment-3204446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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