ianj253 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hey all, I'm a BA player and really love the thunderwolf calvary. I was thinking about getting some of them to take as allies. I know nothing about space wolves so I was just looking for some input from those who do! Do you guys think it'd work taking them for competitive games? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Competitively, from my understanding it is more beneficial for Wolves to take BA allies than for BAs to take Wolves. I don't have any mathhammer to support it, but a lot of chatter in the BA forum regarding allies when 6E was released was that BA isn't lacking any niches that the SW are, referring to Death Company assault squads. That said, competitive or not, TWC are a lot of fun and almost always grant a sense of fear and urgency to remove from the table when your opponent sees them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 TWC are expensive, and when taken as allies, you'll need an HQ and a troopchoise aswell. I don't know how many points you're willing to spend on allied forces, so I'll offer 2 suggestions: low point cost: Canis and a fenrisian wolf pack high pointcost: full Grey Hunter pack with plasmaguns, Standard, MotW, Power Axe, and a TWLord for the TWC itself, 3 bodies, 1 shield, 1 Thunderhammer seems like the way to go to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hey all, I'm a BA player and really love the thunderwolf calvary. I was thinking about getting some of them to take as allies. I know nothing about space wolves so I was just looking for some input from those who do! Do you guys think it'd work taking them for competitive games? If you want an inexpensive(I refuse to say "cheap") and cheerful TWC ally - 1 Wolf Guard Battle Leader in Power Armour - Bolt Pistol; Frost Blade; Wolf Tail Talisman; Thunderwolf Mount 1 Thunderwolf Cavalry - Plasma Pistol; Close Combat Weapon 1 Thunderwolf Cavalry - Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer 5 Grey Hunters Pack - Flamer Total Roster Cost: 395pts The Grey Hunter pack is the required Troops choice, so kept minimal to allow for you TWC. It's still useful as a supplemental objective camper with a Flamer and Counter-attack. The TWC unit can be expanded with up to 2 more models and still keep the entire Allied Detachment under 500pts. Three TWC are effective, while five can be scary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I assume the WGBL is meant to have a TWM since you mention having 3? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I assume the WGBL is meant to have a TWM since you mention having 3? Yes, indeed. The points are spent, I don't know why it didn't list the option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I think SW make great allies for BA JP lists The problem with the BA codex is that there isn't anything that can handle elite assault units or Death Stars. DC die to the same things Asssault Marines die too, Sang Guard don't have an invul save and risk getting shot up by Plasma while TH/SS Terminators are too slow. TWC (with storm shields) allow you to deal with stuff without having to chuck all your precious (troops) jumpers at it. The other (compulsory) units are good too - Rune Priests give you psychic defence, and Grey Hunters a solid midfield objective sitter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Stormshields are expensive though, I'd suggest 1 in every 3 models of Cavalry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Stormshields are expensive though, I'd suggest 1 in every 3 models of Cavalry I would disagree, I run with a pack of 3 TWC and 2 shields and I get their points back every time. Just put the shields in front and your guy with the special weapon in the back. So even if they do pick off one TWC you'll have another guy to continue taking the shots while your special weapon goes to town. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 +1 agreed with the nearest saves/dies rule i find 2 ss(at least) the way to go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Competitively, from my understanding it is more beneficial for Wolves to take BA allies than for BAs to take Wolves. I don't have any mathhammer to support it, but a lot of chatter in the BA forum regarding allies when 6E was released was that BA isn't lacking any niches that t. The BA lack Psychic defence a rounded Troop choice like GH assault marines lack shots tacticals attacks cheap split firing devastators like long fangs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263041-thunderwolf-calvary-as-allies/#findComment-3204989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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