SnorriSnorrison Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Brothers, my researches have taken great efforts, yet they've shown little success. This question has kept me restless over the last days, and so I come to request insight from the gathered knowledge and wisdom of the Blood Angels Subforum. After the unspeakable spoken out loudly, the unthinkable done, after the great betrayal of the Warmaster, despised be his name, after our beloved father Sanguinius, Primarch of our legion, was taken from us...after his death on the battle barge Vengeful Spirit...what became of him? We know that a small portion of His blood was gathered in the Red Grail, injected into the Sanguinary Priests to become living chalices of His heritage. So what I'm missing at this point is a paragraph that states what happened with His body...since the big E was 'sat' on the throne, I'm sure someone of the Sanguinary Guard was left to escort His body back to Terra/Baal? And if not, probably the whole legion would take a 'Raven to the barge to recover the body. From several sources, we know that the last fight on this battle barge was fatal for Sanguinius, yet no source I've ever heard of mentions what happened after that. We got Roboute in stasis, the Lion in the Rock, Russ in the Warp(probably), Corax gone but somehow alive. I mean, almost every other loyal legion knows that happened to their primarch. We only know that He died. Are there any other sources that may hint to the following events? Thanks in advance. Snorri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Er... didn't Dorn take him back to Terra along with the Emperor? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 From my knowledge Sanguinius is in Stasis and burried in a great tomb on Baal. Unfortunately I can't remember the source of my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Slight spoiler for Fear To Tread: Sanguinius and another Blood Angel both see the future where Sanguinius dies, and his body is taken back to Baal and put into the ceremonial crypts with the rest of his brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I honestly have no idea about this, but I think it's enough to know that he died the way he did. Of all the Primarchs Dorn, Sanguinius and Ferrus are the only ones to have made the ultimate sacrifice and fallen facing the Great Enemy. They haven't waltzed off to do their own thing or sat in plot convenient sick beds for thousands of years, they took on missions they knew would cost their lives and still went down defiant and fighting. That's enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Indeed, he is interred on Baal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Isn't it in one of the swallow books ? Corbulo, Mephiston and Rafen end up defending his remains from some Fabius Bile created hell spawn? ..... Terrible book by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus of Baal Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I agree with AGPO. The burial was a ritual of closure for Marines of that time. What's more important than the is the fact that Sanguinius died fighting - and fighting nobly, too, as Sanguinius tried to convince Horus to return to the Emperor's light. Still, the people above for informing us that Sanguinius is in fact interred on Baal. I wasn't wondering, but it's nice to know. I'll be right back, I have to go on a pilgrimage to Baal now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You used to be able to take the (death?) shroud of Sanguinius as a banner. I aways assumed this to be the cloth/banner he was covered in when they removed him from Horus' battle barge before laying him to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Thanks for all the input, it's highly appreciated! I've thought about Sanguinius being brought back to Baal, but I've never actually read it, not in any story about Sanguinius himself, not in the codex or in any considerable writings about the Legion. So, I'm sorry to ask for this again, but are there any sources which give insight into the issue? Y'know, a short paragraph in some HH story, or some side-hint in a text about how Big E got to the throne? Thanks again, all this was very helpful! <_< Snorri PS: I totally agree, AGPO. Sanguinius was a true hero primarch who died in service of the Emperor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Hey now, the Lion and Guilliman were both laid low in service to the Imperium. The former dealing with his own warped-tainted planet and brethren, the latter struck down by the poisonous blade of Deamon Prince Fulgrim. Just because they aren't technically "dead" doesn't make them any less dead to the cause. I have to admit though, Sanguinius and his Blood Angels have found a place in my heart after reading Fear to Tread. I'll agree though, the plot device of statis/gone to the warp, etc. is kind of lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 So, I'm sorry to ask for this again, but are there any sources which give insight into the issue? Y'know, a short paragraph in some HH story, or some side-hint in a text about how Big E got to the throne? Yes, it's in what I said before. Lemme grab the book so I can tell you what they exactly said... He saw the gates to the caverns beneath Baal’s red desert, where the Hall of Heroes resided. The last star slowly dimmed. Kano heard the Angel’s voice. I dreamed of you, my friend. He spoke of Raldoron, and Kano saw the First Captain crossing the corridor. A majestic grav-litter of gold and ruby followed him. I saw you on Baal. You were in the caverns beneath the fortress-monastery. You were filled with pride. And Raldoron was proud; but he wept with it and bore a black band of mourning across his arm. He led the body of their father towards its final resting place. He will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Whoop, double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 There's some fluff on both the Lexicanum and another 40k wiki that I found that states his body is in a sepulchre under the fortress monastery, topped by winged angel statues, but unfortunately both were lacking sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus of Baal Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Hey now, the Lion and Guilliman were both laid low in service to the Imperium. The former dealing with his own warped-tainted planet and brethren, the latter struck down by the poisonous blade of Deamon Prince Fulgrim. Just because they aren't technically "dead" doesn't make them any less dead to the cause. I'll agree with you about the Lion, but Guilliman was just assassinated. I haven't read an account of that combat that describes anything more than a cut on Rowboat Girlyman's neck and a poison that would have killed him had his Legion not been so terrified of losing him that they froze him in stasis. Seems to me that he was such a cold, distant commander that he spawned a legion of like-minded Marines. Distant preference + close-range combat = coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 IIRC (dont have source ready) they drained his body of blood (not just a little, almost completly draining it?) to keep the legion from dying out? The blood angels always needed his blood to activate their geneseed. With the primary "source" gone they needed an aalternative way. The new dex said Sanguinius himself forsaw this.. And his body is indeed buried on Baal, as far as a I know... Tbh theres no safer place (aside from Terra) for one to be buried and be safe from grave robbers :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 The novel that depicts the Tomb of Sanguinius is Red Fury. Our Sire is indeed lying in repose on Baal. I'm going through my 2nd Ed. stuff, looking for something specific about the flight from the Vengeful Spirit, however I haven't found anything that spells it out. The closest I am finding is Abaddon's entry from 2nd Ed. Codex: Chaos. Abbaddon led the Sons of Horus in a furious counter-attack that reclaimed the body of his beloved Warmaster and drove the Imperial forces from his battle barge. The assumption has always been that it was Dorn and the surviving Blood Angels and Imperial Fists that retrieved both the Emperor and Sanguinius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babond Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Heya, Hes in statis on baal, sourced from the red fury / black tide series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I've never been a fan of the Swallow books and given the conspicuous absence of any of his stuff from the codex, the Stdio guys feel the same way about Rafen et al. You know you're a bad writer when even Matt Ward reads your work and thinks "riiiiggggghht..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Epic end for a great Hero. Thanks for the info guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I've never been a fan of the Swallow books and given the conspicuous absence of any of his stuff from the codex, the Stdio guys feel the same way about Rafen et al. My problem with the J.S. books were the same ones I had with the Space Wolves books I tried to read years ago, they were (Seemed to me) made for a much younger readership so I just didn't really connect with them. I was really surprised with his Horus Heresy output as they were just so much better than anything else of his I'd read, and the first half of Fear to Tread is honestly as good as anything else put out in the Horus Heresy. The second half gets a little shaky, but it's still not a bad book. I think C.S. Goto is the guy who gives Ward a run for the title of King Suck. I could just see Goto's HH attempt, 'And then Sanguinius focused his wrath as he whipped out his Blood Multi-Laser, sending crimson streaks towards his fallen brothers with a howl, forcing the spiked multi-laser crews into cover.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I've never been a fan of the Swallow books and given the conspicuous absence of any of his stuff from the codex, the Stdio guys feel the same way about Rafen et al. My problem with the J.S. books were the same ones I had with the Space Wolves books I tried to read years ago, they were (Seemed to me) made for a much younger readership so I just didn't really connect with them. I was really surprised with his Horus Heresy output as they were just so much better than anything else of his I'd read, and the first half of Fear to Tread is honestly as good as anything else put out in the Horus Heresy. The second half gets a little shaky, but it's still not a bad book. I think C.S. Goto is the guy who gives Ward a run for the title of King Suck. I could just see Goto's HH attempt, 'And then Sanguinius focused his wrath as he whipped out his Blood Multi-Laser, sending crimson streaks towards his fallen brothers with a howl, forcing the spiked multi-laser crews into cover.' Oh gods! Dont even joke about that! :D Problem most people have J.S. is his lazy story writing, making the inquisitor be the eventual bad guy and taking a few companies down with him because they followed his commands and thought of the inquisitors commands more then that of their own chapter master uh...what? :) Oh yea and he pulled some spear "originaly from the HH" out of his arse like a good....2 or 3 other authors did at the very same time the novels were written :huh: Sorry for the off topicness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicanuminquisor Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Another thing that came to mind while reading this post is- Who might have carried him to the burial site?, ,Khan , Dorn and the surviving masters of the legion? Or all of the primarchs? A great song that could accompany this scene is off the God of War Soundtrack called "Anthem of the Dead" I imagine that at the eulogy , the Sanguinary Priest would say something along the lines of "As long as a Blood Angel Stands, Our Primarch never dies " Just my two cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkman Of Baal Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I want to know if horus t-bagged the big man. I would of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Well, its never said WHERE the kink in Horus' armor was perhaps he tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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