Torva Minoris Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I noticed the other day while reading the new codex that it never states anywhere that daemon princes actually have the marks of the gods they are aligned to. so for example you can make a daemon prince aligned to tzeentch and it makes it have hatred (nurgle) and can reroll failed saves of 1, but nowhere does it say that he would also get a +1 to his invulnurable save. So if he doesn't get the +1 to his inv save he has a worse save than a thousand son marine. Just wondering if any of you have noticed this and whether you think they gain the benefits of the marks or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The "Daemon of X" upgrades are Prince-specific and list exactly what they do on the Prince page. They don't state that they're marks, so I'd say no, they don't get mark bonuses on top of the Daemon of X bonuses. In short, Princes got slammed in the new codex. You even have to pay points for them to have a save at all (by buying power armor). EDIT: Whoops, I forgot the stock 5++ they get from Daemon USR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3205877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Of course not. They don't have the marks as an option, so they never get them now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3205886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Its a good thing too, imagine a tzeentch DP with a 3++ rerolling 1s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3206289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Its a good thing too, imagine a tzeentch DP with a 3++ rerolling 1s well, if they got the mark it would be 4++ rerolling 1s. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3206571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Its a good thing too, imagine a tzeentch DP with a 3++ rerolling 1s well, if they got the mark it would be 4++ rerolling 1s. Sigil + MoT Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3206730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torva Minoris Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Its a good thing too, imagine a tzeentch DP with a 3++ rerolling 1s well, if they got the mark it would be 4++ rerolling 1s. Sigil + MoT They only have access to Chaos Rewards and Chaos Artefacts, so they can't take Sigil, so a Tzeentch Daemon Prince only gets a 5++ EDIT: assuming they don't get MoT, which it seems they don't Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3206919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Ah. It is special issue. I mis-remembered while posting at work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263143-daemon-prince-in-the-new-codex/#findComment-3207060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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