Help with BA successors WIP

[The Emperor 111]

Hi all,

i've started designing my own DIY BA successor chapter. I am half way through the octaguide and i have some things that i have started and are unsure about. It will be a WIP for about a week or so and i will try to incorparate any ideas. Thanks :D

 

 

Name (I'm unsure about the names but i'm leaning towards Angels of Hope )

 

Steel Angels

Angels of Hope

Emperor's Paladins

 

Founding (Leaning towards 5th)

 

5th Founding

17th Founding

 

Homeworld and related info

 

Segmentum

Obscurus

 

Sector

Trecamyne Sector, Arksanga Sub Sector

 

Homeworld

Hope IV

 

Hope IV info

 

Grade- Semi-Feral

Population- 1.3 Billion

Main Population center- Hive Imperator (403 million)

Geographical Information- Single mega continent (Imperator) surrounded by a massive mountain chain (Heaven's Barrier). Toxic seas surround the mountain chain. Majority of pop (602 million) live on imperator while rest live in Heaven's Barrier.

 

I will put it into IA form on Monday as im away on sunday.

 

Thanks!!!!!!

 

The Emperor

[Messor]

While there's not a whole lot I can say without knowing more about the nature of the Chapter, I also like the Angels of Hope name, but I think I might prefer Steel Angels. Emperor's Paladins wouldn't be my choice.

 

The founding: since there seems to be almost no information about the two foundings in question, it makes no difference which you choose since you'll still have thousands of years of history to work with, so I say go with your gut.

 

The location looks fine to me, was that just for our benefit, or do you need any input on it? Only thing I would say, which is probably a common issue anyway, is that Imperator sounds like a pretty generic name.

[Erasmus of Baal]

"Angels of Hope" is way too bright for the grimdark death machines that are the Space Marines. Remember, these guys are supposed to inspire such fear that renegade commanders surrender just at the mention that these guys are on their way; "Angels of Hope" does not evoke this, no matter how violent angels actually are in Judeo-Christian traditions. The other two could work, but the Grey Knights are better claimants to the title "Emperor's Paladins." We'll use Steel Angels for now, but the name should have some measure of relevance to the Chapter.

 

As for the rest, well, I see nothing here. I see a location. A setting. That's like saying, "Hey, guys! Take a look at this hypothetical nation I just came up with in the middle of Africa!" and nothing else. I'd really love to see more, but there's really nothing here except that you're in the far corner of the galaxy.

 

Waitaminnit. Semi-feral with a Hive on it? No, that doesn't work. If you have one hive, you're already putting so many toxins into the atmosphere that you may as well have a few more. if you want a large human population, you do not need a a hive.

[The Emperor 111]

@erasmus the idea was that because of their angelic nature, as well as being Blood Angel Successors that they would be virtues of hope, but flawed (I know that is kinda like BA but hey, they're even more so).

 

@both their preferred strategy is mech assault, so Steel Angels would work better. As for the founding, my hole was that they were founded to PROTECT this region after a chaos rule of a century (hence so far out). They actually (not sure about this bit) maintain very good (but by no means ideal) relations through the forge world they manufacture their gear and transports. Their nature is for well planned, massive armoured assaults that are supported by their abundance of land speeders. The thing they do noticeably lack in is sustained campaigns over the first few assaults.

 

@erasmus (again) my idea was as it is SEMI-FERAL the main city was like say, Rome in Roman times. So not to built up height wise, but sitting out for a decent distance circumfrance wise.

 

Gonna get first IA part up tommorow

 

Thanks,

 

The Emperor

[Erasmus of Baal]

@erasmus the idea was that because of their angelic nature, as well as being Blood Angel Successors that they would be virtues of hope, but flawed (I know that is kinda like BA but hey, they're even more so).

Yes, I picked up on that. The point still stands.

@both their preferred strategy is mech assault, so Steel Angels would work better. As for the founding, my hole was that they were founded to PROTECT this region after a chaos rule of a century (hence so far out).

That's fine. I wasn't criticizing that point, just pointing out the fact that you really didn't give us very much to talk about.

They actually (not sure about this bit) maintain very good (but by no means ideal) relations through the forge world they manufacture their gear and transports. Their nature is for well planned, massive armoured assaults that are supported by their abundance of land speeders. The thing they do noticeably lack in is sustained campaigns over the first few assaults.

Space Marines do not (in general) need to have pretty much any relations at all with any forge worlds. Their Techmarines actually makes Rhinos, Razorbacks, and the like for the Chapter. Of course, salvage and repair is often easier than new construction, but the main point remains the same. You can also have an abundance of land speeders without a special relationship with the AdMech.

 

Furthermore, Space Marines really aren't supposed to be engaged in sustained, long-term campaigns. That's what the Imperial Guard are for. Weaknesses in that area really aren't worth mentioning.

@erasmus (again) my idea was as it is SEMI-FERAL the main city was like say, Rome in Roman times. So not to built up height wise, but sitting out for a decent distance circumfrance wise.

Yes, that's fine. You can have a large city on an otherwise feral planet, but that is not the same as having a hive. You really should not have both a hive and a feral world, as until most of the planet is city, there isn't a lot of reason for people to build upwards and begin what eventually becomes a hive. Non-hive cities do exist in 40K, they just aren't as talked-about as the (usually more interesting) feral worlds and hive worlds.

[The Emperor 111]

Origins in IA form, C+C welcome:

 

The Steel Angels were created during the 5th Founding; which records are now lost to the wear of time; directly from the Blood Angels Geneseed. Tutored by a mix of Blood Angels and Angels Sanguine, most notably Furiso Dreadnaught Holst, the Steel Angels were, and still are, affected by their teachings all thse centuries ago. After their training, 12 of the 30 brothers assigned to train the Steel Angels stayed with the fledgling chapter, filling in the Captaincies, Chapter Master position and; in the case of Holst, the role of the most experienced and ancient Steel Angel.

 

The Steel Angels were created for a dark cause; shielding the Arksanga System in Segmentum Obscurus from the predations of Chaos, Xenos and Bandits. While chaos remains the most prolific of these; thanks mainly to the Eye of Terror and the monsterous wrath warp storm; the Steel Angels have battled all threats to the Imperium across it's very breadth, as they believe that astartes must defend the Imperium from Xenos and traitors anywhere in it's huge borders. Because of their relative proximity to the Eye of Terror, it is understandable that the chapter was trained by Angels Sanguine and Blood Angels, preparing them for any and all threats known at that time. It is a duty they somberly (and successfully) carry out to this day.

 

After their founding, the Steel Angels almost immediatly came to blows with the Ordo Malleus. After their first major engagement on Graz II, where all four companies participated in the destruction of the heretical forces, the fledgling Librarium discovered, and kept, a deamon weapon. Days later, Inquisitor De Zeo of the Ordo Malleus arrived, demanding that the Deamon Weapon be handed over and the Librarium mindwiped. Chapter Master Jukren reluctantly agreed to the Deamon Weapon's transfer, but point blank refused to the mindwipe of his librarium. While De Zeo did not push the matter any further, the Steel Angels were kept under a close eye by the Inqusition for decades, and even hampered in their campaign to liberate Hydres V from Ork warbands.

 

 

Thanks C+C welcome

 

The Emperor