Phantomworks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I have been thinking bait about Inquisitors and a very common theme seems to be Inquisitors going rogue or falling to chaos. Why is that? Why are they not physcoconditioned like the Grey Knights that has shown to be incorruptible? Also how come they lead such long life spans if they are not Space Marines and have the enhanced genetics to allow for such a long life. Surely as they face the nastiest of situations and foes not only facing entree physical danger but also the assault on their souls and faith you would think Inquistitors should really be made up of Grey Knight like super marines or soldiers.... Baffling,,,, I guess I am trying to get my head around why such "normal" type humans should be given such power and responsibility. Thanks, G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Inquisitors have the tough job of eliminating the root causes of chaos wherever it manifests. Unlike grey knights, whose duty lies merely in destroying the most obvious signs of corruption, inquisitors must understand the inner workings of chaos in order to be able to identify the threat. The thing about chaos though is that it is essentially limitless, and thus their job is never complete. Faced with this reality, inquisitors have a few choices to make on how to deal with the crushing knowledge of the futility of their struggle. Either they shut off most of their rational reasoning (the Puritan philosophy is based on willful ignorance, so most of those types are examples of this), or they decide to power on and expand their search for answers to beyond their previous parameters (thus becoming radicals). Of course, they could also just give up and become rogue inquisitors to fight for the inevitable victory of chaos. Inquisitors are not conditioned like marines because 1: such conditioning destroys individualism and muffles personal initiative, which are invaluable traits for inquisitors, and 2: such conditioning wouldn't make a difference anyway. Ignorance is bliss, and inquisitors can never afford to be ignorant like any marines (even the grey knights can be classified as relatively ignorant, which is the only way they could handle their lives IMO). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3208833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 As spartan249 said Inquisitors are generally more involved with heretics, traitors and deamons. They get up close and personal and might hear and/or understand why people go the route they did. They might agree with it or understand completly but its there. They also, more or less, see life in the emperium and see the hardships some people go through. The emperium isent exactly a fun place to be and seeing the things they do they might find their own faith and judgements wanting... Thats the best explanation I can give for inquisitors falling to chaos. They see the route of the problem and might disagree with the emperial creed as a result. The better question to ask however can be why so few fall :) inquisitors are used as an easy plot device by alot of writers and tbh hardly any fall. Those that do fall are quikly hunted down and put to the sword by their own kind. Every now and again one will fall through the net by and large most remain loyal...as far as i can tell ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3208877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Also - when doing clandestine work, a space marine or someone of a similar size, is REALLY easy to spot. And they're not exactly subtle, by most means. That's why Inquisitors are normal mortals, rather than post-humans. As for Inquisitors having long lives - that's usually down to juvenat treatments to make them younger (with varying degrees of success and quality). Considering some investigations can last decades or even longer than a century, then long lives are definitely necessary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3209128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Who watches the watchers? The Inquisition is tasked with rooting out heresy and corruption, and many are deceptive and subtle by necessity. In such an shadowy environment, it is of little surprise that some eventually turn to the ways of the Radical. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3209155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilOfCalth Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Who watches the watchers? The Inquisition is tasked with rooting out heresy and corruption, and many are deceptive and subtle by necessity. In such an shadowy environment, it is of little surprise that some eventually turn to the ways of the Radical. In good old grim-dark style they watch each-other! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3209185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Technically, the Ordo Malleus is in charge of internal affairs, though any inquisitor can submit a declaration of diabolus hereticus on suspected rogue inquisitors. Inquisitors aren't exactly normal people in any case. They have to make it through decades of training, study, and scrutiny before they can even begin work as an inquisitor, and one black mark can end a prospective inquisitor's career in a heartbeat. Extraordinary individuals are the only ones who become inquisitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3209332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Gathurn Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Technically, the Ordo Malleus is in charge of internal affairs, though any inquisitor can submit a declaration of diabolus hereticus on suspected rogue inquisitors. Not only that, but individual inquisitors can declare other inquisitors excuminacite traitorus (Or whatever the officail title is, don't remember). Also it's important to note that most of them don't go into situation nearly as dangerous as marines, or at least a different kind of danger. Much less bullets flying around, more dangerous thoughts/ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3209516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Not only that, but individual inquisitors can declare other inquisitors excuminacite traitorus (Or whatever the officail title is, don't remember). Excommunicate Traitoris, brother. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3209522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oir Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Technically, the Ordo Malleus is in charge of internal affairs, though any inquisitor can submit a declaration of diabolus hereticus on suspected rogue inquisitors. Wouldn't that be the Ordo Hereticus? I thought that any form of internal heresy was their domain, thus they'd be watching the rest of the inquisition, not the Malleus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peredyne Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 You should read through the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series of books. Two perfect examples of inquisitors turning radical in their pursuits. And if you think they are bad, think about how bad their opponents have to be for them to succumb to the "ends justifies the means" philosophy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 @oir The Ordo Malleus was originally the thought police of the imperium before the emperor was entombed in the throne. Ordo hereticus deals with witches and apostates. If you remember the latter half of Eisenhorn's escapades, most of his biggest fans were Malleus, to Eisenhorn's dismay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 @ourThe Ordo Malleus was originally the thought police of the imperium before the emperor was entombed in the throne. Don't you mean 'after'? The Inquisition didn't exist until after the Heresy. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I mean that the Ordo Malleus originated from the thought police of the imperium, not that they were the thought police before the heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Ah. I don't suppose you're using predictive text, are you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Gah, smartphone being dumb ... ignore it >.> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Remember the Ordos are merely a social club within a secret society :P They aren't really very formal at all, and people can change Ordos during their career, sometimes more than once. They can also belong to multiple Ordos. Any Inquisitor can and does police other Inquisitors. They trust no one, not even each other. The short answer to the original question? They aren't... they are but normal men and women. Strong willed and exceptional, but they are only human. Eventually they will crack. Most die first. Sometimes they go to extreme means to combat the foes they must and this brings their fellows down upon them (sometimes legitimately, sometimes not). It's part of what makes the Inquisition so fun :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263391-inquisitors/#findComment-3210754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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