Hound Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hello brothers, in the new dex DP is quite expensive but I really dislike the drake so a winged MC may be the right solution to bring down enemy fliers or do a mess of enemy infantry. My question is how equip him to maximize his efficiency? My hypothesis is MoS (faster to go HtoH), Wing (of course), power armor and three psychic levels (one of Slaanesh and two of Biomancy). He should be around 260 pt. What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_ Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 DP should really carry Black Maces, with that little item, they can work around challenges, and kill in 2 turns (yours and opponents) any squad. Also, walking DPs are too slow to be worth their points (in the gavdex they were not worth their point without wings), wings are mandatory. Browsing in this forum you'll find http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=262792 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=263037 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=262751 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3208861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal.Lictor Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I second that DPs need the Black Mace as a mandatory piece of equipment. Play vs nid and laugh all the way to the bank, well anyone but Nids most especially. Three inches radius around the DP's base is HUGE. You are getting at least 7 attacks if you don't charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Another possibility is a khornate prince with the blind mace. Other than that though, those two are pretty much the only builds for a prince. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Mace, wings, PA, mark as appropriate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 black mace power armour wings mot is what im planning Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Mmmmmmm.....may be also MoN with the shrouded ability.....quite usefull to survive.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Librarian Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Another possibility is a khornate prince with the blind mace. Other than that though, those two are pretty much the only builds for a prince. Do you mean blind axe? The book says you must upgrade him to a prince of ...xyz... khorne for example, not that you give him the mark. The Axe is only for characters with the mark of khorne. So if you go strikt by these words you cannot give it to him. Greetings Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Another possibility is a khornate prince with the blind mace. Other than that though, those two are pretty much the only builds for a prince. Do you mean blind axe? The book says you must upgrade him to a prince of ...xyz... khorne for example, not that you give him the mark. The Axe is only for characters with the mark of khorne. So if you go strikt by these words you cannot give it to him. Greetings Yes the axe. That's how the wording is now but most of us are pretty sure that it was an oversight by the author and will be cleared up with a FAQ. That's how I intend to play it as anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yeah, presently RAW you can't actually take a pince with the AoBF which is absurd. You're better off giving him the mace anyway, though, really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think it depends on the situation. If you're needing some anti-tank then I'd go with the axe because the DP would then have strength 8 naturally and 9 on the charge. Would annihilate just about any armor wouldn't you say? Currently though the best option is the mace, wings, armor and whatever mark you'd like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I can't say I like spending the extra points for the mace ontop of splurging for the prince in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 It is AMAZINGLY worth it. For me, it'll always have power armor, wings, the Black Mace, and either be a Tzeentch or Khorne daemon. Cheap (for what it is) and immensely killy. It's more ridiculously violent in close combat than a Bloodthirster (and it's cheaper!), so that's saying something. DP's cannot possibly take the Axe, it's not an oversight, and it will not be changed. No mark, no weapon. You don't need the Axe for anti-tank duties anyway. Just give him the mace and have at it. Smash for 3+ D6 S10 ( + charge bonus) attacks that reroll pen rolls. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 DP's cannot possibly take the Axe, it's not an oversight, and it will not be changed. No mark, no weapon. You don't need the Axe for anti-tank duties anyway. Just give him the mace and have at it. Smash for 3+ D6 S10 ( + charge bonus) attacks that reroll pen rolls. :) What makes you say that Seahawk? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 What, their alignment issue? It's not like there was a skipped noun or misplaced verb...it's an entirely different system. They are "a daemon of...", not "may take the mark of..." It's the same as Draigo's sword not being a Nemesis weapon, or certain BA characters not being IC. To do otherwise would make them even more ridiculously strong than they already are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The Daemonic Weapon flamer of Skalathrax can also be pretty FUN. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sounds like most people are skipping over powers. Is it the LD9? I know that throws me off, especially when you're forced to take god powers before standard powers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 it is the cost and the fact that eldar runes and SW rune staffs exist . it is just not worth buying powers for a prince, unless you know that opponent doesnt have any anti psyker support [which is impossible in the age of ally] and even then we would run biomancy x3 , if we could. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 My DP will be ML 3 with biomancy and one tzeentch (cuz we have to), power armor, black mace and wings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263397-how-to-equip-a-dp/#findComment-3209625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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