The Emperor's Champion Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Perturabo is going to be a friggin' Monster. He actually is wearing Termie Armour. Perturabo? He's just an average sized Primarch in Terminator Armour. He'll be about Horus' size. Magnus will be outright colossal. Probably Dreadknight sized. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torva Minoris Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I don't think angron was the shortest. I think Alpharius/Omegon were, in deliverance lost is talks about how they used to blend in with their marines and how horus was massive compared with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Perturabo is going to be a friggin' Monster. He actually is wearing Termie Armour. Perturabo? He's just an average sized Primarch in Terminator Armour. He'll be about Horus' size. Magnus will be outright colossal. Probably Dreadknight sized. I'll give that Magnus should be huge, but I'm not gettin' Perturabo being average... Look at the size of the human skulls hanging from his belt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torva Minoris Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Perturabo is going to be a friggin' Monster. He actually is wearing Termie Armour. Perturabo? He's just an average sized Primarch in Terminator Armour. He'll be about Horus' size. Magnus will be outright colossal. Probably Dreadknight sized. I'll give that Magnus should be huge, but I'm not gettin' Perturabo being average... Look at the size of the human skulls hanging from his belt Yeah, looking at those as a reference, that pretty big. Unless they were the skull of children. The guy did eventually become a daemon prince. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisisJimmy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Regardless of their relative size, if they all end up similar sizes and with similarly epic bases, they are all going to look awesome. 18 blokes of at least Dreadnought size is going to make an awesome collection to say the very least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Known comparative heights of Primarchs from HH books: Magnus > all Corax > Dorn Ferrus > Fulgrim Horus = Angron All > Alpharius I'd say Mortarion is second tallest too. So there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Where did some of those come from, Billuriye? I've seent he Magnus as the tallest stuff, and Alpharius as the shortest, but not the others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingo Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I seem to recall Magnus' height, aside from being giant, also being referred to as somewhat variable. A bit like how the Emperor seems to be able to alter his stature as his whims and mood takes him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Where did some of those come from, Billuriye? I've seent he Magnus as the tallest stuff, and Alpharius as the shortest, but not the others. From HH books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the color purple Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Horus is definitely not the same size as Angron, look at the cover of 'The Primarchs.' Angron is far and away the shortest present. The Khan is taller than Lorgar, who is about the same height as Dorn. Sanguinius is taller than Mortarion. Horus is a head taller than Fulgrim but that might be his armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Horus is definitely not the same size as Angron, look at the cover of 'The Primarchs.' Angron is far and away the shortest present. The Khan is taller than Lorgar, who is about the same height as Dorn. Sanguinius is taller than Mortarion. Horus is a head taller than Fulgrim but that might be his armor. I got that chart by reading HH books. But yeah you're right based on that cover. Still i wouldn't consider it canon since it may change depending on writer's whims e.g. Sanguinius hair changing from black to blonde or Fulgrim's eye color from black to violet etc. But what's canon in W40k anyway? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudblinker Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wouldn't say Angron is the shortest based on the cover for The Primarchs, he is standing directly next to Magnus who we know to be largest and by comparison would look smaller. He also appears to be leaning forward which would account for him appearing to be the shortest present. As with every depiction and description of the primarchs artistic license will be taken. I would wager that forgeworld will keep the primarchs size variation pretty close to their rules descriptions. For instance Horus is Very Bulky and Angron is Bulky. I'd bet that the "bulky" size will be the standard primarch size with few of them falling on either side of that, like Horus and Magnus being very bulky and Alpharius and Omegon being close to if not standard marine size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaltak Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 My only issue is that he is bald. I always pictured him with shaggy black hair (think the incredible hulk look) and having the nail on view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3212566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 As far as I know (disregarding questionable interpretations of cover art), Angron is a primarch of normal size Magnus is a giant (he can make himself even bigger though sorcery) Alpharius/Omegon are the "midgets" (they're the size of particularly large marines) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Mortarion is constantly referenced as being extremely tall, if he was shorter than sanguinius i dont think thatd be the case, id say that you are looking at him being the 2nd biggest, horus & pertarubo being next due to armour & the others bar the twins being of similar size Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the color purple Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Angron is not only noticeably smaller than the other primarchs in the only art I know of depicting him next to them, but he's "bulky" while the other three with rules, even twinky Fulgrim, are "very bulky." I think he's intended to be on the smaller end, although his model is quite big so we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Actually fulgrim is just bulky too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Going from that picture on the cover, Angron does seem small compared to the Primarchs. And not just compared to Magnus, but the other Primarchs standing near him. And if you look at the John Blanche artwork, he does have a bit of a squat look to him. I always thought of him as the bulldog Primarch. Smaller than average, but more built. But then, that cover art showing Angron and Lorgar has Angron downright hulking over Lorgar, so who knows. Personally, I think it'd be awesome if Angron was the shortest outside of Alpharius/Omegon. Tiny little rage machine that will absolutely ruin your day. And it should be noted that Alpharius/Omegon weren't standard Marine size. In all discussions about their heights in the books, the taller than average Marines were close enough to Alpharius/Omegon's height to be seen as the same, but not exactly the same. Alpharius and Omegon were taller than their own tall Marines, just not by a noticeable bunch. So even though they were the shortest of the Primarchs, they were still bigger than big Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Ignore the scale of Angron on the art for the Primarchs novel, he is leaning forward and resting on the balcony - nor is he pink like a cooked lobster. But yes when it comes to Alpharius and Omegon they are certainly going to be the smallest of all the Primarchs but as Cormac Art said, they are taller than standard marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Some weird perspective is going on in that picture. Magnus is smaller than Jaghatai, Angron, Sanguinius and Mortarion look small etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3213950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Some weird perspective is going on in that picture. Magnus is smaller than Jaghatai, Angron, Sanguinius and Mortarion look small etc. Magnus is farther away and slightly bent over. Going by that image you can tell Magnus is even bigger than Horus. Angron -- even hunched over is clearly smaller than the other Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3214082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Angron -- even hunched over is clearly smaller than the other Primarchs. He looks like if he straightens up he would look the same size as Mortarion and Sanguinius nearby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3214096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 He looks like if he straightens up he would look the same size as Mortarion and Sanguinius nearby. I don't see that at all. Straighten him out and he still looks like he'd barely reach Mortarion's shoulder. In that picture they might be similar, but Mortarion and Sanguinius are further away. He's certainly hunched over, but the bit of him that we can see highly suggests that if you straightened him out he will still be the shortest one at attendance. He is pink like a lobster, though. The way in which someone with red facepaint might appear when seen at a distance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3216581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skolia Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Wasn't there something in a HH novel basically stating that Magnus the Red can alter peoples perceptions of him to make him seem taller/shorter/older/younger or whatever? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263454-angron-model/page/2/#findComment-3217430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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