jimmimellows Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Bit of a random question here that hopefully someone can clear up. I'm planning on taking the FW Sevrin Loth model and filing off all iconography, replacing icons and shoulderpads with Sons of Horus iconography. i'll also add a topknot after re-sculpting the psychic hood so it fits. I envisaged painting the chap up in Sons of Horus sea green but wanted to see if that was actually fluffy. Anyone know when the blue scheme for librarians was introduced or has it always been that way from the great crusade? Any help appreciated, Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Sea-green. The Codex Astartes codified Librarians as blue after or during the Heresy. And I doubt the SoH bothered to adhere to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 After reading some of Betrayal, I'd advocate sea-green and black, personally. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I thought the Sons of Horus didn't have any librarians. Can't remember when I read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
curnow Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 the sons of horus were created after the edict of nikiea so wouldnt have any librarians untill after isstvaan 4 then you mite get some chaos ones . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 @ curnow: I think you're thinking of Ullanor, rather than Nikea. In the October White Dwarf there is a Severin Loth painted as a World Eater, and his scheme is the standard WE one. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid99 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 They didn't become the Sons of Horus until some time after Ullanor and were still Luna Wolves at Nikea, there were Luna Wolves present at the Council as depicted in Thousand Sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 There's a point, at the time of the heresy librarians were outlawed amongst the legions, even the traitors didn't have them. At least I've not heard of any being used in Istvaan III or V. A World Eater librarian seems even less likely what with the butchers nails and the legion eventually going over to Khorne. Other than Abaddon and his terminators, do the Sons of Horus really have much use for topknots? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rx781a Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 you know, i always had questions about this. since the SoH and others were rebeling from the imperium why would they keep the laws set down by decree of nikea? also if you look back at Mortarians speech at the trial he said that the DG will never have any psykers in there ranks. we know that the WB consort with deamons and have them posses them( the gor vorbat..spelling off i know) so thats sort of like use of psykers. the death guard were learning of the blessing of the grandfather(as feature in the BL 2012 Chap book....read it and FotE...YOUR CHOICE ON THAT ONE...I LIKED IT). the TS......well......yeah nuff said they kinda got the shaft. but what about the other legions? i think that in a way the use of psykers by the rebel would be like another middle finger to the loyalists. think about it. here is a scenario. SCENE istavan 3 SOH ...um...Bob- hi brother! how are you doing? SOH....TOM- fine brother bob...*tom shoots out mind lightning at bob* SOH BOB- ow!! stop it you know what the emperor said... SHH TOM-screw the emperor!!! SOH BOB- YOU.....ow!!...you D***!!!!!! SOH BOB DIES! END SCENE So...yeah that happened. i would like to see how the rebels handel that. weather its a slow process(like some DG) or really fast and terribly creepy( like the EC...stuff in reflection cracked was ripped out of clive barkers wet dreams....ew) also i know that the BA, UM and to a more strategic side the IF are rethinking the ruling of nikea( or if you are a SW just claim some bs on how your power comes from your home world and you will be ok......d***s!)and i like that the loyalists are starting to(limited but its coming) think for themselves. oh and to answer your question. the storm seer in TS did have a blue tabbard that signified his position as a librarian. whether or not that was a legion wide trait i don't know. the TS never used it and the had a LOT of psykers. take that as you want. i honestly like the use of color markings to make units stand out. but use your best judgment and im sure that all will work out for the best. but dont trust SoH Tom....he is a jerk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 There's a point, at the time of the heresy librarians were outlawed amongst the legions, even the traitors didn't have them. At least I've not heard of any being used in Istvaan III or V. A World Eater librarian seems even less likely what with the butchers nails and the legion eventually going over to Khorne. Unless this has been changed which is possible, the World Eaters did indeed have Librarians but they were all killed when the legion turned by the other World Eaters as psykers are indeed hated by Khorne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3210970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I meant the Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves didn't have psykers. But I've had a quick look at Betrayal again and can't find any reference. Might have dreamed it. If they do have librarians then I reckon you could either dress them the same as troopers (they returned there after Nikea) or have a particular should pad. The Blue is Codex in my opnion and not relevant at the moment. Regarding top-knots, Betrayal says the top-knot and mohawks became popular from Cthonia. I'm using a couple of chaos marauder heads for some of my Luna Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3211001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Engel Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 They didn't become the Sons of Horus until some time after Ullanor and were still Luna Wolves at Nikea, there were Luna Wolves present at the Council as depicted in Thousand Sons. I got the impression after "A Thousand Sons" and "Prospero Burns" that Nikea was well after Ullanor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263497-sons-of-horus-librarian/#findComment-3211363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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