loku Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 http://media.desura.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/07.jpg Is the Heldrake a "must have" unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 "Must have", probably not. I'm still planning on getting one once I figure out what to do about its lack of junk in the trunk. I really want to see how this thing sizes up with a Fell Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Having not seen an actual Fell Beast model, I have to say that the pictures make it look a whole lot smaller than the Heldrake. It's just very skinny, whereas a Heldrake is pretty fat and substantial. My plan is to get a Terrorgheist model to kitback with my Heldrake, and hopefully end up with two organic-mechanical hybrid Heldrakes. At least, that's the plan. :lol: In terms of effectiveness, I think it could be quite good, but certainly not essential. I don't think there are any "must-haves" in this codex, so make the army that matches your style and will be fun for you to play. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loku Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 I really want to see how this thing sizes up with a Fell Beast. Having not seen an actual Fell Beast model, I have to say that the pictures make it look a whole lot smaller than the Heldrake. Fell Beast? other things.... look this: A really Dragon! http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vZ0-KKkfUNE/UH2Cr_yGfII/AAAAAAAAGII/fCUg9DPW_n8/s1600/47875_357099201046010_649293106_n.jpg And a Helvampire http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6N39aVrZP2w/UH9hjnLEdkI/AAAAAAAAGJg/J0bkG7Z8UUI/s1600/554454_10151122605288505_1255239536_n.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I've been thinking about taking the neck off a heldrake and replacing it with a big fanged mouth to make some kind of screwed up vampire bat, nice to see someone actually did it! Also um. That dragon. Wow. Did you do that? How did you do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loku Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Also um. That dragon. Wow. Did you do that? How did you do that Sorry but those aren`t my! I think that he let the bits free!!! I think that is easy to make but really i don`t now! jejeje It have bits from maulerfiend sprue (lasher tendrils) for the tail! The Vampire has bits from warp talons and forgefiend sprues too I will treate to make both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The second one looks like someone took the ectoplasma head from a forgefiend and (pardon my french)shoved it in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yeah the second one doesn't look... quite like i imagined that kind of conversion would. I really don't think the warp talon bunny ears help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4734/img1517qk.jpg http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6277/img1519z.jpg http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1214/img1520u.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Is the Heldrake a "must have" unit?No. It is however quite fun to use, even though it looks like a frigging Dragon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I really like the very dragon looking one. I'd have to mount a Helldrake rider on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The dragon posed/converted one in post#3 looks absolutely immense! Now, where did my Grey knights go til we smite it back into the nether-realms of the warp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonah Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I would say at the moment it's as close to 'must have' as you can get. The only reason I wouldn't take it is if I was going for a very specific list and was desperate for points. I say 'at the moment' because the meta is generally low on Interceptor weapons. So for now, baring Aegis Defence Lines, we generally get to kill a free tactical squad on Turn 2-3, then another squad per turn after that. And if his offensive power wasn't ridiculous enough he has high survivability with a 5++ and It Will Not Die. If you have two of these bad boys right now you're pretty much cheating. But I expect their advantage will drop as more AA units are brought into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Until then, take advantage while you have the money to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attomsk Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The question I am wondering is do you have to take them in pairs, or can you get away with just one, while the rest of your fast attack is filled with bikers/spawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Everyone else seems to be getting away with one. They are US$70 a piece after all so I'd hope they can be taken as just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplainmikey Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The converted/ altered pose with the drake rearing up is something I as planning on doing myself, though with a slight twist. Mine was to be perched on some terrain (city of Death building wall) torching some Imperial Fists below it. Might stil give it a go if I feel brave enough. :) I'm loving the Defiler leg conversion, looks miles better than the stock GW version! ;) Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Wow whoever did the drake in the first picture needs to do a tutorial like ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 In way of size, how does the Heldrake stack up next to a Vulture or a Hell Talon/Hell Blade? Also, is the torse thick enough accomodate a cockpit similar to the Vulture in place of the neck and head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I used a heldrake vs tyranids yesterday, and I must admit it was fun. The bale flamer is awesome, and so is the swoop attack. Am yet to play with it vs an army with decent anti flyer units though, and am wondering how well it will stand up in a game vs vendetta's or storm ravens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonah Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The question I am wondering is do you have to take them in pairs, or can you get away with just one, while the rest of your fast attack is filled with bikers/spawn They're fine on their own for now, but later on we'll probably need them in pairs, just like everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBasser Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I only plan on using one. Mainly because Chaos Space Marines are my allies. But, with Fateweaver and another Daemon Prince with Wings I should have a good amount of flying things for the enemy to target. Best part is FMC vector strike and have breath of chaos. So a lot of fire every where! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhetoricus Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 torching some Imperial Fists below it. Why I oughta! *shakes his imperial fist* It is both delightful to see our vision realized here, and a shame you didn't get there first. Regardless, massive kudos to the architect of that monstrosity. It very closely macthes that lovely piece of artwork in the new dex you pointed out to me Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplainmikey Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Why I oughta! *shakes his imperial fist* You know, you really shouldn't go around shaking things in public, it doesn't go down well. :o :o I really like the idea of using a pair of Drakes, but i'm not sure I can justify the price ( money, not pts) and they would be an absolute nightmare to transport! I wonder how long it will be before we see some converted loyalist flyers to represent Drakes? Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm pretty sure they already exist. And I think Biohazard is bouncing around a few ideas for "count as". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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