Julgolax Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I know we have the Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, and renegade chapters who are every color under the rainbow but for an army that's truly scary looking you really have no choices do you? I mean, say you want your force to LOOK LIKE the artwork within the gorgeous new chaos space marine codex, that visceral, dark, malign appearance that we all know and love. How could you do this without using black, red, dirty metallics, and more black? How do you make green or purple into an "evil" color for example? Some ideas would be great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Depends on what emphasis you want. Generally going for dark colours is the visual cue for dark motives but then again I think disco pink is an evil colour... So, making purple or green 'evil' generally boils down to making it darker. If you're looking for brighter colours looking evil, you're going to have to look for other visual cues, imho, like spikes, faces in the armour and trophies. Of course, there's extra layers, such as representation of grime or blood which might help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Cyanide Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Evil pink: http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/Danny_Cyanide/minis/Emperors-Children.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Drybrush Alien Purple or equivalent over a Matt Black undercoat. Job done. Making green 'darker' will just make you look like a Dark Angel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazcruzk Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Darker usually works for purples. As for green, I think brownish or moss color works pretty well although it starts to look pretty Nurgle, which may not be what you're going for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Personally, everything "evil" is supposed or assumed to be dark. The bright colors for Chaos remind me of evil clowns or something of that ilk. Sure a huge guy in black is scary, but a maniac in pink with a gun that fires sound running at you with lust in his eyes would be a little more terrifying imo...lol! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 i like to darken the colours. Especially gold, as it just pops too much of loyalist. It needs to be dark and gritty. Luckily your washes (badab for blue/grey colours, brown for red tinted colours) do this perfectly. YOu can just apply more, to make it darker, or less to keep it lighter. If you do more, you can easier apply contrast later with a highlight/drybrush, giving imo a nice result. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 How do you make green or purple into an "evil" color for example? Some ideas would be great. For green: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge#.UIO6eMUxo_I I started using this colourscheme for my MoN-units (except for Plague Marines themselves), and it looks rather malicious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 "Scary" is subjective. What type of frighting image are you want? Do you want the brutal, bloody barbarian in earthtones? The sadist with a pinch of class in vibrant hues? The cackling magician in rich, royal colors? As Olisredan said, the menace can come from thematic elements as colors themselves are not inherently scary. Unless you have chromophobia. Then they might be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineswords Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'd always thought different reds and scarlets would work for Khorne Berserkers. The whole red with brass or black trim is overplayed. I'd love to see bersekers with red and crimson trim, covered in years of gore, so it would stain the front side dark brown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonah Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Black wash everything then give them red eyes. Bingo! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attomsk Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 My guys are bright orange but they look pretty evil in their own way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Incubi Darkness, as it's so pretentiously called, makes a good 'evil' green - especially combined with smurf blue. They clash horribly! ^^; Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3214991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Brighter colours can be scary, Emepror's children do not need to look like clowns Emperor's children marine, it all depends how you want them to feel. To fluorescent colours will make them look silly, but making the colours look less bright will get them look more "evil". Vibrant poisonous can make the chaos worshippers look evil, but I think it is hard to pull off. Mu Slaanesh marines are decadent and cruel, and I use very little black and I still think I can pull off an "evil" vibe. Ok, trophy racks, spikes, tusks, slaves, horns and skulls dangling from the armour, all help to get the more evil feel. Plus if you have a daemon prince with a huge axe there is very little discussion if he is evil or good no matter what colour it is wearing today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Oh yeah. There is no way I'd want to be chained to a slaaneshi daemon prince. That seems like an eternity of bad times for sure. Sometimes reputation is all that is required to make them scary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungicats Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Personally, everything "evil" is supposed or assumed to be dark. The bright colors for Chaos remind me of evil clowns or something of that ilk. Sure a huge guy in black is scary, but a maniac in pink with a gun that fires sound running at you with lust in his eyes would be a little more terrifying imo...lol! Especially on a dark rainy night in a small alley :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Of course you can make something evil without certain colours. You just have to do it differently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Love that Prince. Unfff. :) I don't really think there are "stereotyped" colors in this game at all, especially given that the SM Chapters use every color under the spectrum for themselves and can look just as menacing as anyone else. If there's a perception of certain colors being the remit of certain factions, I think it's only in how those colors and factions have been represented to us as a whole. I haven't got much use for green, for example, except for a couple of bits of it on some Plague Marines, but even I have to admit the picture of the Chaos Marine from The Purge up on pg 79 of our Codex looks pretty wicked, and he's just basically green and black. I think presentation has a bigger impact than just simple color choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I love the white / bone armor look. I'd like to try something similar for my demon engines. On topic, I've always attributed the four cult legions color scheme as something similar to the traditional four elements. Red = fire = Khorne Green = earth = Nurgle Blue = water = Tzeentch Pastels = wind = Slaanesh And yes, that would make Abbadon the equivalent of Captain Planet :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I love the white / bone armor look. I'd like to try something similar for my demon engines. On topic, I've always attributed the four cult legions color scheme as something similar to the traditional four elements. Red = fire = Khorne Green = earth = Nurgle Blue = water = Tzeentch Pastels = wind = Slaanesh And yes, that would make Abbadon the equivalent of Captain Planet :tu: "With your powers combined, I AM CHAOS ASCENDANT!" Who's heart though? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ... Blue = water = Tzeentch? What's with all the Blue Fires and the Pink Fires and the Warp Lightning then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ... Blue = water = Tzeentch? What's with all the Blue Fires and the Pink Fires and the Warp Lightning then? The guy gets distracted trying to open his mailbox, cut him some slack for being confused. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ... Blue = water = Tzeentch? What's with all the Blue Fires and the Pink Fires and the Warp Lightning then? I always thought the ever changing nature of Tzeentch meshed well will the Bruce Lee water and being formless so that's part of the reason for the connection. Then again Chaos is just 101 paradoxes so anything and nothing can be true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz431 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 With gw having such a long paint line available to you, you could make a war band with any colors you want. Test models for the win. If you have a local gw, go there let them know what you want to do, they may have a spare old marine model, you can ruinate to your benefit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3215997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ... Blue = water = Tzeentch? What's with all the Blue Fires and the Pink Fires and the Warp Lightning then? Well, seeing as the mark of Tzeentch is a river... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/263869-chaos-colors-too-stereotyped/#findComment-3216002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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