Cod Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I guess this question is really aimed at owners of the Horus Heresy Betrayal book. Been led to believe that a list of a sort can be built from the army list, resembling something like the old Dark Angels Ironwing list. I have actually just ordered it for myself, but while I wait for it to arrive... What I was thinking was: Tactical squads in rhinos Dreadnought Talon Artillery tank squadron Techmarine Covenant (to maintain the vehicles!) Predator squadron Vindicator or Landraider Fellblade So, you think this idea could work as a useable 'Ironwing' list? I was saddened to hear the DA codex may not be seen for 5 or 6 months, so thought this might give me something fun to work on instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 If you have an interest in 30k stick around - you might find interesting things here... soon. Very soon. Like next week soon. :P As regards the list, all the above are in there but there is also a FOC to be respected. And of course there are "rites of war" for your leader that will give him some positives and some negatives if you want to theme your force further... I think, the Betrayal list is amazing with all the options and the "Great Crusade" feel it has! I can be more helpful when I go home later... (book's too big to sneak it to work :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Love the idea of an Ironwing. But can't comment further as I don't have that particular book :(. Seems your test list might work in a modern 40K FOC setting, by removing the Fellblade and Tank and Artillery squadrons. In my hazy memory, the Ironwing was basically a marine force, with emphasis on Heavy Support (LRs, Mole Mortars, Whirlwinds, Pred etc). There was no real requirement to have transports for the Troops elements either - but it's more 'tanky' if you do :). Think of the Ironwwing as something that didn't include either DW and RW and you're there. At the most basic for instance: Company master, combi-melta Company Veterans, (9), Rhino Techmarine (why not?) Tactical Squad (10), Rhino Tactical Squad (10), Rhino Tactical Squad (5), Razorback Tactical Squad (5) Razorback Predator (or Whirlwind) Predator (or Whirlwind) Predator (or Whirlwind) or something like. Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You can get much better transports for tacticals under the Legion rules - provided you take the appropriate "rites of war"! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Like what? Also, are the rules 'official', in that you can/could get a viable legal 40k foc list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Like Land Raiders? Of any kind? :) EDIT: I don't think you can mix Legion list with Codex lists... also this "ability" to take LR's comes with a catch - "rites of war" work that way... Some benfits and some restrictions. It's a good way to build a themed force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 ..... muses..... yep I can see that attraction :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Rites of War, eh? Interesting. So are they a bit like the old DIY chapter thingy from 4th edition C:SM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Well, not that customizable... There are like 4 them (I really have to get home to get hold of the book to be more accurate). One that's for tanks, one for fast attack, one for Termies & elites and an orbital attack one. They don't cost points as they give a bonus but also restrict your army too. But if you want a themed army they seem fun! It could be they add more in future books... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cod Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ok, thanks, I will wait patiently for the heresy book to arrive and see what goodies it brings in terms of army list options. In the mean time, will start building what vehicles I have. Isiah: You gave me hope an Ironwing of a fashion can be built. Even if in 40K ;-) Captain Semper: You also intrigue me with your 'very soon, like next week soon'! Oh and theres nothing saying in the future when the new DA codex arrives, I can reshuffle my minis to suit. Ah the joys of trying to build a themed force usable for both 30k & 40k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 My guess is, it would be indeed a challenge to build an army that will suit both systems. I will certainly follow this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If you have an interest in 30k stick around - you might find interesting things here... soon. Very soon. Like next week soon. ;) You are such a tease ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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