Benjyboy1994 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Hi, my friend is building a Fortress Monastary for a challenge and asked me how to arm it (guns on walls, that sort of thing...) and what kits he should use. He is on good wages (unlike me :( ) and likes to build massive things, so be as detailed as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 A... Fortress-Monastery? Um... I'd give it whatever weapons you want. Starting with heavy bolters and lascannons. Do remember, FM's are meant to house an entire chapter (if for some inexplicable reason they were all gathered there at once), their armoury, their motor-pool and thousands of serfs (on average). Some space marine chapters FM's are grounded Battle Barges. Massive doesn't even describe the task if he intends to make a whole one... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3219999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostLegion Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 one simple recomendation... Epic Scale! you know, 10mm scale...maybe smaller... might actually be able to build something that large then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 The building plan is a 7-tier system using old board pieces (4'x4') as the first level, but beyond that we have no idea as to how he is gonna do this, as you can guess, it is in 40K scale, as you do... I thought of the Imperial Defence laser or ten, but have no idea how to make one. He has already ordered a few artillery emplacements from FW and used a couple of IG heavy weapons sprues to make some gun emplacements. I can't help but think this'll take a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Sorry, double post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I don't know why, but I always like to envision them having those massive Ion cannons like the Hoth base had. I know that in Rogue Trader, they went pretty in-depth into the Space Wolves monastery. Might be able to glean some ideas from it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainbow Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I think the best bet is to try and make a section of one. Kind of like the Siege on the Imperial Palace type thing with just a section of wall and interior. As for what the fortress actually looks like, I have no idea. Other than 'the Fang' or the Imperial Fists floaty fortress thing (forgot the name) I can't think of many being described that well in the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Don't forget the blood bat den :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'll have a look for my Rogue Trader then, but about the Ion cannons, would a Macro-cannon from the BBB be any good? Of course there will be more, as Derek wants to use it in an Apocalypse game. Edit: LOL, just got the Blood bat den joke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If your friend intends to use a 4' by 4' base, I'd describe his FM building as 'the front gate'. FM's are waaay bigger than 4' by 4' in 28mm scale. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 If your friend intends to use a 4' by 4' base, I'd describe his FM building as 'the front gate'. FM's are waaay bigger than 4' by 4' in 28mm scale. ;) You are probably right, but I'm not entirely sure what he's going to do with it. I know that each level is going to be 4'x4'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Not possible 40k is roughly 70:1 scale if his fortress is just one square kilometer, the board would need to be a fourteen metre square. That may be a fair size, for a fortress that's hundreds of levels deep.... Three x six meter for one hundred rhino? Just parking space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Not possible 40k is roughly 70:1 scale if his fortress is just one square kilometer, the board would need to be a fourteen metre square. That may be a fair size, for a fortress that's hundreds of levels deep.... Three x six meter for one hundred rhino? Just parking space. Well, that's depressing. ;) Well, what if it was like a Chapter Keep, for a aprt of a Chapter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 It could pass as a Chapter Keep. They're basically for marines to rest and re-arm and it'd be a smaller fortress in general so 4' by 4' could be big enough for a significant portion of the Keep. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remmah Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 A fortress monastery would be as big as a small city with a vast defensive network surrounding it. A section would be doable though. You'd need high walls and turrents and gun emplacements i reckon. For the interior things like the starwars Ion Cannon would be great, maybe a missile silo too. Something that might be cool would be those buildings from Dawn of War. You could paint those in chapter colours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Thanks for the replies, it is officially a joint project now, me and him, and it is only a Chapter Keep. Thanks for the advice on weaponry, if anyone has other ideas just post it up please, I'll take photos ASAP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Here is some inspiration - Space Wolves vs. Nids And some more I just found - One | Two | Three I like how #3 has a sub level. Perhaps this was meant to be on a Fortress monetary scale. Or an entrance to the Imperial Palace. Yes, I believe it is a part of the Imperial Palace - here are some more (and it's quite old). Okay, now I'm just enjoying finding and staring at these... Here is another newer version of the Imperial Palace. Or at least a part of the wall or some such. Oddly enough, the White Scars, including the Khan, holding the loyalist's right flank that you see in pics 1,3-4 are gone by the time you get to the bottom half of the photos. Are things like this group efforts and they remove individual units for inspection? Anyway, good luck to your friend and his project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I have a very vaguely mapped out Fortress using 9 4x4 boards, but it was more of a PDF Laser Defence Cannon type thing than a space marine fortress. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3220713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjyboy1994 Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 @ EPK: They were very helpful, thank you. @ DominicJ: The idea is brilliant and massive, I would definitely follow that! If you have any tips, please share them. @ Everyone: I don't have a camera so you'll have to wait for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3221614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Well, since I didnt win Euromillions last night, it wont be leaving excel :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3221628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The Fang, the space wolves fortress occupies and entire mountain and then some.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3221667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 The Fang, the space wolves fortress occupies and entire mountain and then some.... That's not entirely doing it justice. The Fang is *The* Mountain. It's peak is in space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3221943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMek83 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Getting like 4 Fortress of redemptions, 4 Imperial strongpoints and quite few bastions would be a start. Depending the rumoured Terrain: Wall of martyrs which has been depicted some white dwarf for a keep. For a monastery, perhaps Bill Gates would loan few million for that?... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3222030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 That's my version of one of the gates. Some more in my album. Gradually extending it. Needs that Dark Angels Fortress thing next... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264284-fortress-monastary-building/#findComment-3222407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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