Thorian Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Hi i recently returned to the 40k world after a number of years absence and have decided to buld my first full army after previously just being a collector of models i liked. I decided i wanted to theme it around my favourite part of the fluff, the Inquisition and just wanted to ask the view of some more experianced people in the 40k lore/fluff then me if this make's sense. The general idea is to have 2 Inquisitors one from the Ordo Malleus and one from the Ordo Hereticus, they are both believers in the Thorian philosophy and so my first question would be, could they get along or would it be against the fluff for them to work together? My second question really concerns the allies system, as id like to take Sisters of Battle as allies so i can basicly do the old Daemonhunters/Witchunters combined force, is that possible? Thanks for any help and if you have any suggestions for a theme along those lines id be happy to hear it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 There are Thorian inquisitors in both the Ordo Malleus and Ordo Hereticus, so there's no outright reason why you couldn't have a Thorian-themed GK/SoB army on the table working harmoniously. (Of course, there are "warring", or at least competing, factions within the Inquisition, so the level of discord within your army and without your army can be determined pretty much however you wish.) So yes, you can totally have allied Sisters of Battle with your primary GK army. :) The biggest problem you'll have with getting Sisters of Battle onto the table is the lack of a printed codex outside of the 2 issues of White Dwarf that came out in 2011. As of this writing, there is no PDF available, so unless you have access to those issues ... you have no codex to refer to. :) I don't know how to help you here except to urge everyone to agitate GW to get their rear in gear and either reprint the issues or otherwise make the army available for use by interested players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3224432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 My army may or may not be made up of two inquisitors, one Hereticus and one Malleus, who are both Thorians who studied under the same master and start on the table with Chimeras and warbands, then deep strike in Grey Knights as reinforcements. So you are totally fine by your idea :) If you want to legally have a Sisters detachment, in addition to finding a copy of the rules, if you play at 2000 points you could unlock a second force org chart. This would allow you to field the following as a minimum army: 2 Inquisitor HQs from Codex: Grey Knights (can have warbands and transports) 2 Troop Choices from Codex: Grey Knights (Strike Squads or Terminators) 1 HQ from Codex: Sisters of Battle 2 Battle Sister squads from Codex: Sisters of Battle It's doable, your points get kind of tight but by using Inquisitors as the HQs you can shave points off a little easier. The hard part is getting the rules if you don't have them already :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3224442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorian Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Thanks for the help, luckily i have a friend who has had a subscription to white dwarf for the last few years so he is gonna lend me those issues for the sisters rules. Im glad im not the only one who love's the Inquistion. A couple more questions related to the army, so are you saying that i can't take 2 Inquisitors in my GK force unless it is above 2000pts? as i was kinda hoping to just have Grey Knights be the grunts for my Ordo Malleus rather then having there own leader. Second question is related to alternate companies models, especially Reaper & Privateer Press, as i was looking at adding certain models by those 2 companies in with GW miniatures but not sure about scale match up. Links to the models im considering. Andre Durand Sascha Dubois Anastasia di Bray Madelyn Corbeau Rutgar Shaw Taryn di la Rovissi Jokaero Counts As Stormtroopers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3224465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 are you saying that i can't take 2 Inquisitors in my GK force unless it is above 2000pts? as i was kinda hoping to just have Grey Knights be the grunts for my Ordo Malleus rather then having there own leader. No. :unsure: What INP is suggesting is that at 2000 pts you can have a rather massive force org chart chock full of Inquisitors and "henchman", SoB, GKs, etc. Because at 2000 pts you can get two Primary detachments, and each Primary detachment can take an allied detachment, giving you quite a bit of Inquisitorial goodness. Less than 2000 pts ... you get 1/2 the Inquisitorial goodness. Though that's still quite a bit. ;) As for your models ... I think they're all appropriate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3224584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 What number6 said. You have 2 default HQ choices, so at 0-1999 points you can have up to 2 Inquisitors. Inquisitor A Inquisitor B (up to two optional warbands) :) Strike Squad or Termies Strike Squad or Termies At 2000 points we have the option of doubling our Force Org if we can complete the minimums for both. This would allow for potentially a 3rd or 4th HQ choice, which means we could have the following: Force Org A : Inquisitor A (optional warband) ;) Strike Squad or Termies Strike Squad or Termies Force Org B : Inquisitor B (optional warband) Strike Squad or Termies Strike Squad or Termies allied detachment of Force Org B Cannoness/Celestine/Confessor/etc Battle Sisters squad Battle Sisters squad This gives a LOT of optional models and variety. Granted it can get very points spendy very quickly, but it also lets us simulate the old Witch Hunters/Daemon Hunters Codices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3225045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorian Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Thanks for the help i will start planning out an army list once i decide on which Inquisition models i am going to use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3225247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 If you're more keen on the non-superhuman side of the Inquisition (i.e., as few GKs as possible), then Coteaz is all but a requirement as at least one of your HQs. He has the benefit of being cheap himself with a couple of neato abilities, too. You can always make him a "counts as" for your own fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3225431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorian Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Well just got back from my first couple of 40k battles in almost 10 years, 1000pts of just Sisters(due to not having any GK yet) against Space Wolves & Death Guard, turns out the local group is quite competative so im looking for advice from more experianced Inquisition players on what to take in a 1500pts army of Inquistion(GK) and Sisters allies. Thanks for any advice you can offer and thanks again for the help already given. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3225875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Bobert Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I've been sticking to the inquisition side of the GK codex. If you don't want much in the way of Grey Knights on the table Coteaze is required. If you want to run a shooty army Warrior Acolytes will be your bread and butter, there's arguments all the time which is better to rely on, I lean towards the storm bolters. Toss two Jokeros into the unit for the heavy weapon and if the unit is going to have an Inquisitor attached I would recommend adding a servitor with either heavy bolter or plasma cannon. For melee unit crusaders and Deathcult make a powerful combo, keep the Crusaders in front for the 3++. What I've been bringing in competitive games since 6th GK HQ Coteaze Ordo Mal Inquisitor (termie armor psychic) Troop 2x Melee (6 crusaders 6 deathcult all in a chimera) 2x Dakka (7 Warrior acolytes with storm bolters, 2 Jokeros, 3 servitors with heavybolter) Razorback with psybolts and heavybolter Heavy 2x Dreadnought with psybolt and two twinlinked auto cannon That's about 1288 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3228173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorian Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 Thanks, im trying to balance a theme with still being competative in my Daemonhunters & Witch Hunters alliance, as my local group is what id class as fun competative not WAAC type. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264612-playing-the-inquisition/#findComment-3228578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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