Zaph Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Good day, I'm a new GK player, and have a few questions regarding henchmen: -Are DCA's allowed to wield a power sword + power axe, officially or condoned at least (on non-GW tournaments for example)? -What is the best power weapon to equip Crusaders with? Would that be a Power Axe always? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 DCA are allowed to equip anything thats in the category of power weapons. - Sword - Axe - Maul - Spear So yes, a sword and axe would be really nice. Best power weapon for Crusader is really up to your playstyle and the synergy of your army. If they are intended to fight 2+ guys, then of course the axe is the better. If you have other units dealing with 2+, a power weapon is enough. But since they are I3, they will usually strike "last", as the most common foe is Space marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3224396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaph Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Cheers for the reply, now to order me some power axe bits then ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3224431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan249 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'd actually put power mauls on them. S5 from the mauls makes it much more likely that you put wounds through, and crusaders need all the help they can get with that. Also, I'd put a power lance and power Axe on DCA. Lances have superior stats on the charge, and you either mulch the unit on the charge or die with DCA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3224807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherWasted Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 oops...they have power swords, not Nemesis force Swords... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Are DCA's allowed to wield a power sword + power axe, officially or condoned at least (on non-GW tournaments for example)? Unit entry says 'two power weapons'. GW have stated multiple times that if it says generic power weapon, you can model and equip the unit however you like (whichever you pick has to modelled properly however). Power sword+power axe is the best combo for DCA. Sword lets you go at Initiative and ignore power armour, power axe is for suicide trades with enemy Terminators (their mass powerfist deletes you, but your mass power axe deletes them back). What is the best power weapon to equip Crusaders with? Would that be a Power Axe always? Power axe. Ignoring TDA is clutch in this game (6th edition is Terminator edition), and +1 Strength is nice. They have terrible I3 anyway, so its no real loss to go to I1. They only have 1A normally, so you need to make it count. Power spears are terrible. AP4 = irrelevant, and its not guaranteed you'll get the charge anyhow (Raven can always get shot down). The +1 Strength can be obtained from the attached Tech-Marine ('Hammerhand' and rad grenades with DCA is just brutal), who you wanna bring anyway due to Ld8 and ATSKNF (not to mention he brings servo-arms and meltabombs for blowing up Dreadnoughts in melee, and a stave for challenges). Power mauls are a complete joke. Most people are taking powerfist or (for Templars) twin-lightning claw Chaplains for this exact reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamv6 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I have left all my DCAs with Power Swords, but changed my Crusaders to Power Axes. I run 6 DCAs and 2 Crusaders in a squad, and whilst my main aim is to now hunt PA squads, I still try my luck against 5 man TDA squads. The reason being is simple; Terminators die to shear weight of saves just like anything else. 6 DCAs churn out 24 attacks on the charge. At I5. 3s to hit, 4s to wound. On bad rolls I still put 5 wounds on them, on good ones, 10+. If I can take out 2 of a 5 man unit, my Crusaders stand a pretty good chance of taking another 1. My foe lose combat invariable as I take their attacks on my Crusaders and use the Storm Shields to stay alive. I sweeping advance the terminators :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaph Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Are there cheap ways to get around 20 power axes for DCA's/Crusaders? Most bit sites sell 'em for 1 pound a piece or more, that's abit too much if you ask me. Same for the Forgeworld chain axes, so I was thinking I'd go with Fantasy axes perhaps, although that doesnt do my henchmen models justice imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenderleech Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I bought a box of fantasy dwarves. It comes with 16 bodies, like 30 shields, and a crapton of axes.. and 8 hammers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaph Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Aye, the Fantasy axes come aplenty and cheap, just wondering if there's any (bitz) store thats sells the 40k power axes cheaply Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherWasted Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 There's no such thing as a cheap bitz store :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamv6 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I used Warrior of Chaos - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod1040516 Cut the head out, put a terminator head in its place, sand off the chaos markings and they look pretty reasonable. For the finishing touch, put the inquisition symbol on the shield (painted or buy the brass ones from forgeworld) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3225972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaph Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm actually in need of some idea's for Crusader conversions. I tried out with Bretonnian Men-At-War and Chaos Warriors, fitting em with custom heads and such but I don't like neither. I'm really looking for knights that have that "space" feeling, just like the GW Crusaders have (shame they didn't make a box out of it with more stances/torsos). Does anyone have any good ideas for custom Crsuaders? Preferably GW miniatures and can be outside the GW range as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3231100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 How about the dark angel upgrade set? Used the robed bodies / heads. Just need to find a nice Storm Shield. (They're down on the GW site atm, so here's a link to the box from Wayland) http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/games-worksh.../prod_1474.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3231107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I have left all my DCAs with Power Swords, but changed my Crusaders to Power Axes. The thing is though, you lose nothing by taking an axe for the second weapon. Neither are specialist weapons, so you get the +1A regardless. Might as well have AP2 handy for when you need to kill Stormhammers (3++ breaks more easily than 2+ ever will). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3232693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaph Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 So I've nearly finished modelling + painting my first 10 DCA's (based on DA Wyches), but I 've hit a brick wall reagrding Crusader models. I've spent countless hours googling, looking up threads to get some conversion ideas, but I don't like a single one of them (Bretonnian, Chaos, etc.). The GW models would have been perfect if they came in a kit to make different poses etc. I want to make/buy a model that closely resembles the GW model, but something I can convert well and isn't as expensive. Anyone with a brilliant suggestion? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3242042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 You can use cheap stuff to get the effect you want. Something to consider: - get cheap storm shields off eBay bits store - get cheap axe bits off eBay bits store - get an IG Infantry Squad box That should be a good starting point. It'll require a fair amount of work to get the posing right, but you should be able to get one hand thrusting the shield forwards, the other one holding the axe. From there, you can make further decisions about wargear, helmets, capes etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3242350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slah Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 This is how I´m doing it - Still only finished this first one, but has 10 planned: http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/slah_photos/Games%20Workshop/40K/Grey%20Knights/henchmen/WP_000194.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/slah_photos/Games%20Workshop/40K/Grey%20Knights/henchmen/WP_000195.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/slah_photos/Games%20Workshop/40K/Grey%20Knights/henchmen/WP_000198.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/slah_photos/Games%20Workshop/40K/Grey%20Knights/henchmen/WP_000199.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3245305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 You'll have to find something to provide the shield (I used Warlord Games Roman Shields (I used These but for fancier ones they have These ones)) but the base model for my Crusaders were the Warhammer Fantasy DarkElf Corsairs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3246697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaph Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yeah, I've got the shields and power axes ready and primed already: http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1094 http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?r...;product_id=127 Need to make up my mind about the models, so hard :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264626-new-gk-player-henchmen-questions/#findComment-3247141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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