Olis Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 This is more of an exercise than a real army list but I thought I'd whack it up and see what people think: Legion Praetor - Master Crafted Volkite Serpenta - Paragon Blade - Artificer Armour - Iron Halo - Digital Lasers -Frag and Krak Grenades Rite of War: Pride of the Legion 160pts Legion Command Squad - 2 Extra Chosen - Volkite Charger x4 - Power Sword x5 - Artificer Armour - Legion Standard - Bolt Pistols - Frag and Krak Grenades 230 points Legion Veteran Tactical Squad x2 - Power Armour - Bolters - Chainsword/Combat Blade - Frag and Krak Grenades - Nuncio-Vox - Volkite Serpenta x5 - Power Sword x5 - Volkite Charger x1 220 points x2 Legion Destroyer Squad - Power Armour - Twin Bolt Pistols - Chainsword/Combat Blade - Frag, Krak and Rad Grenades - Jump Packs x5 - Volkite Serpenta x1 - Phosphex Bombs x3 185 points Contemptor Dreadnought - Smoke Launchers - Searchlight - Twin-Linked Lascannon - Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon 200 points Legion Tactical Support Squad - Power Armour - 5 Extra Marines - Volkite Caliver x9 - Bolt Pistols - Chainsword/Combat Blade (sergeant only) - Frag and Krak Grenades 220 Points Legion Heavy Support Squad - Power Armour - Volkite Culverin x5 - Bolt Pistols - Frag and Krak Grenades 185 points Legion Predator x2 - Searchlight - Smoke Launcher - Predator Cannon - Lascannon sponsons x2 250 points Legion Vindicator - Searchlight - Smoke Launcher - Laser Destroyer - Combi-Bolter 130 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Have you considered trying out the Volkite weaponry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 I know - I need wheeling away. :ermm: Any thoughts on the list? I got about halfway through and then I realised I needed some anti-armour firepower. Is it enough do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Onyxius Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 What Legion do you plan on using? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'd be tempted to swap something out for jetbikes. More volkite weaponry and some mobile anti tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 What Legion do you plan on using? Well... If I actually commit to this list, which I may or may not yet, it'll be the Fists. I've been a son of Dorn at heart for a long time. <_< @ Witchunter Kraine - Jetbikes, you say? I never really considered them seriously. However, the options you suggest do make them seem appealing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I think it'll help make the army look distinctively 30k aswell Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 What Legion do you plan on using? Well... If I actually commit to this list, which I may or may not yet, it'll be the Fists. I've been a son of Dorn at heart for a long time. <_< @ Witchunter Kraine - Jetbikes, you say? I never really considered them seriously. However, the options you suggest do make them seem appealing... I'd be surprised if the Imperial Fists favoured Destroyer Squads over, say, Breachers. Destroyers just seem a little more Iron Warriors. I'd be interested to hear how people actually get on with Volkite weaponry - it seems like it would be great against IG / Eldar Guardians / etc but I have reservations over how well they'll work against MEQ or TEQ armies (of which I mostly face). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3224803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'd be surprised if the Imperial Fists favoured Destroyer Squads over, say, Breachers. Destroyers just seem a little more Iron Warriors. I'd be interested to hear how people actually get on with Volkite weaponry - it seems like it would be great against IG / Eldar Guardians / etc but I have reservations over how well they'll work against MEQ or TEQ armies (of which I mostly face). This I suppose with the extra wounds it causes when you fail your save it could be more devastating than I realise, but as we're only really facing other marine armies at this point (no real rules for xenos enemies, though there's no reason why you can't just use the 40k set) I wonder how many it'll actually cause? Has anyone done a math hammer on what damage a squad of volkites would do on a marine? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'd be surprised if the Imperial Fists favoured Destroyer Squads over, say, Breachers. Destroyers just seem a little more Iron Warriors. Well, I'm sure there was some Destroyers in the Fists somewhere. :P In regards to Volkite weapons - to me they're a fairly cheap (usually +5 pts unless it's a heavy weapon) upgrade to bolt weapons. Granted they have a shorter range but with Deflagrate they'd decimate 5+ armour saves and might also cause a bonus casualty in heavier armoured troops. I haven't done the maths yet though. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 next question, how do you plan on modelling the volkite weapons? Or will you just get a bank loan and buy the FW stuff when it's released? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 next question, how do you plan on modelling the volkite weapons? Or will you just get a bank loan and buy the FW stuff when it's released? Hmm. Probably will get them (the Volkites) from FW in one go, tbh, if I go with this list. Anything else might have to be done in separate batches, money permitting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Onyxius Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Ha! You are a Fist then I guess I will have to make Crocell's company after all in the heresy style. That way the story fits the models, since we are writing one. I guess I will have to start on him right away Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 If that really becomes the case, I'll have to create a model each for Dollus, Solun and Krane, then. :lol: Funny we should talk about that, actually, as I've been thinking of how Crocell would be modelled through his various iterations in my/our story. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Onyxius Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 If that really becomes the case, I'll have to create a model each for Dollus, Solun and Krane, then. :P Funny we should talk about that, actually, as I've been thinking of how Crocell would be modelled through his various iterations in my/our story. ;) I think I coud make Crocell easily with his Mark IV armour and fur cape, it would be interesting, besides that will be my goal once I get the heresy book and some units to start off with. I can't forget Tarkain, De'kar or Belathur either now can I ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3225907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sadly this list needs more Volkite weaponry :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3226340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sadly this list needs more Volkite weaponry :( And more cow bell. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3226373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sadly this list needs more Volkite weaponry :P It's not enough?! That will not do! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3226517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 About the Destroyer Squads, I'm not too sure Fists would have them. Especially after reading the various Heresy books about the Imperial Fists. It just doesn't fit their character. The Iron Warriors would have no such problems though. And for the list, I can't help (sorry) as I don't know half the rules yet ;) But I do wonder whether you had considered including some Volkite weapons in that army list? Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3228371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 About the Destroyer Squads, I'm not too sure Fists would have them. Especially after reading the various Heresy books about the Imperial Fists. It just doesn't fit their character. The Iron Warriors would have no such problems though. The way I'm looking at it is that the Fists had at least some Destroyers - that is unless FW tells me they didn't. ;) Saying that, I could be tempted to swap them out for Jetbikes... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3228379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'm sure this list would be terrible against Orks/Eldar/IG, but the sum of all the extra shots could be a blow even for good armours. I don't know if you made this for fun, but I'm positive it could be a valid choice in these numbers; the Fists surely fit the character and I agree on destroyers. :whistling: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3232915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'm sure this list would be terrible against Orks/Eldar/IG, but the sum of all the extra shots could be a blow even for good armours. Terrible? How so? :) I don't know if you made this for fun, but I'm positive it could be a valid choice in these numbers; the Fists surely fit the character and I agree on destroyers. :) I did, although it might possibly end up being a genuine army. Thanks for the support, btw. :) Anyway, for a slightly alternative list I'd swap out this: Legion Destroyer Squad - Power Armour - Twin Bolt Pistols - Chainsword/Combat Blade - Frag, Krak and Rad Grenades - Jump Packs x5 - Volkite Serpenta x1 - Phosphex Bombs x3 185 points For this: Legion Jetbike Sky Hunter Squadron - Power Armour - 1 extra Jetbiker - Bolt Pistol - Chainsword/Combat Blade - Frag and Krak Grenades - Jetbike w. Heavy Bolter - Volkite Culverin x1 180 points Might give me some extra mobility, firepower and toughness but I'm trading battlefield roles here. Both units harrass, granted, but Destroyers tend to be a salt-the-earth unit that messes with the enemy and acts as back-up for the hammer unit whereas Sky Hunters chip and wheedle the enemy with somewhat painful firepower and act as a mobile annoyance. Does anyone have any thoughts? Should I switch in something else, or would it throw out the (what little) synergy of the list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3233451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 keep the volkites! also, if you can't wait for FW volkites, what to you make of this new release from anvil as a volkite: http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/image/cache/data/a-new/rifles_pistols/ion_rifle_-500x500.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3233706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'm sure this list would be terrible against Orks/Eldar/IG, but the sum of all the extra shots could be a blow even for good armours. Terrible? How so? :) "Terrible" in the Good way! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3233725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 I'm sure this list would be terrible against Orks/Eldar/IG, but the sum of all the extra shots could be a blow even for good armours. Terrible? How so? :huh: "Terrible" in the Good way! :lol: You had me worried there - I thought I had missed something! ^_^ @AngelsAbsolute - Nice weapon, although I would have to modify the front of the gun, if I get any, so that it fits in with how I envision what a Volkite weapon looks like. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264644-2000pts-of-volkite-awesomeness/#findComment-3233840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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