Urauloth Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Maybe we should talk about the situations where they would be good, Ok! I made a list: On a display shelf ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 A single warp talon makes a good lightning claw champion for a raptor unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I did use a squad in a small game to back up my Key carrying Lord in a CC against RAS, the CC ability is awesome even without grenades - though TBH twice the number of raptors would have probably been about as good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsoldaten Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 bad . too few attacks and grots overwatch and hit them back like normal marines , but each kill costs the talons a lot more. they do ok again power armored targets under 9 models in the open , as long as there are HQ among those 8 or less models. Insightful. How about against an eldar guardian squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 A min strength guardian squad with no heavy weapon in the open, or a max strength guardian squad with a warlock and a star cannon in cover? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Has anyone actually used Warp Talons in a game, or are people just buying into the meta-hype and the collective wisdom of the internets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 The latter of course, don't be silly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Has anyone actually used Warp Talons in a game, or are people just buying into the meta-hype and the collective wisdom of the internets? I've used mine twice so far. They did pretty good against other marines. Have yet to try them against anything but Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khurdur Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I think they could be ok...think about it they are marine killers...take 6 or 7 with MoK and they have a buttload of attacks with lightning claws....assault grenades or not they will shred any MEQ unit...just don't deepstrike them. But they lose the cheaper utility of the raptors, who have access to more useful toys like meltaguns.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher 89 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 so i started this thread and listened to alot of advice, but i wanted to 'try' warp talons out in a tornny, so i had 5 games , i played 3 marine armys, 1 dark eldar army and 1 guard army. i ran them with the MON because i knew they would have to assault without grenades so t5 would help. game 1 vs guard they got bogged down and killed through weight of numbers the enemy committed to killing them, but it did allow me to win the game as he committed to much to killing them and once they were down a defiler used his big battle cannon to mop up the remaining guard alive from the combat lol. game 2 vs ultrsmurfs - they did quite well in this game they took out a 10 man dev squad and a 10 man tactical squad and my champion took out a captain and gained +1T from the boon table. game 3 vs blood angels- they wasnt to bad in this game but got held up[ a turn to long killing a tactical squad and got counter charged by a terminator squad and wiped out game 4 vs dark angels deathwing there wasn't much they could do here they did kill 1 squad of tactical terminators more to my enemy's bad rolling of Armour saves lol and my champion took out belial in a challenge, but that was again thanks to him taking a thunder hammer and ss me getting to strike first and him failing all his 2+ saves, but other than that i won the game through weight of fire. game 5 vs dark eldar, i tried a different tactic here as he had lots fast transports, i kept them well hidden and used them to counter charge his squads as they hit my plague marine squads,, they survived the whole game accounting for 4 squads taken out whilst held by my plague marine squads. so overall they did fine worked quite well, i know you can get a more cost effective raptors squad, but having 5 pairs of lighting claws really worked well and having the MON giving them T5 helped them survive even after having to charge certain united in cover, overall i liked using them and will add the squad to my army , not for every game but they will play a part in future forces of mine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Good to hear, it's always nice when something does better than expected, and the models do look awesome. Your experience against terminators & belial, though, that's not something you're going to see happen often. As far as I can tell, that's a "let me tell you about the time my goblins took a charge from a blood thirster with no casualties, and banished it back to the warp on combat res" kind of story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 game 2 vs blood angels- they did quite well in this game they took out a 10 man dev squad and a 10 man tactical squad and my champion took out a captain and gained +1T from the boon table. Poor clueless BA-player. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher 89 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 game 2 vs blood angels- they did quite well in this game they took out a 10 man dev squad and a 10 man tactical squad and my champion took out a captain and gained +1T from the boon table. Poor clueless BA-player. ;) ha ha sorry i had to edit my post i mixed them up it was the ultrasmurfs that took the devs and tactical and the BA who took the terminators lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264804-cant-decided-raptors-or-warp-talons/page/2/#findComment-3228586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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