Roma Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 So, a necron catacomb command barge is a chariot, meaning it can sweep attack in the movement phase. However it also has its own sweep attack special rule, worded slightly different. Does it get both, gets to choose, or uses either one? I ask because it seems to be an identically named rule like the talos skimmer rule in 3d edition, rather than a contradiction between codex and rulebook (in which case codex wins). Please help, it's really been bugging me when I play vs my cron opponent, who seems just as unsure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The Necron FAQ doesnt mention anything about it, so it would appear that the option on wich ability to use is entirely up to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3226788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy12009 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'd think its just like the talos. Use the codex version until GW says differently. The crons just get a special version of the rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3226808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roma Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Thanks grey Mage and shaggy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3226810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'd think its just like the talos. Use the codex version until GW says differently. The crons just get a special version of the rule. The reason why I disagree with this is because the Barge is changed to unit type "chariot" and the attack is a basic ability of all chariots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3226892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I'd think its just like the talos. Use the codex version until GW says differently. The crons just get a special version of the rule. The reason why I disagree with this is because the Barge is changed to unit type "chariot" and the attack is a basic ability of all chariots. In that case I would have thought that the FAQ would say something like: "Page 52 – Catacomb Command Barge, Sweep Attack. Ignore this entry – refer to the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook" As it does for Land Raiders PotMS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3226914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I'd think its just like the talos. Use the codex version until GW says differently. The crons just get a special version of the rule. The reason why I disagree with this is because the Barge is changed to unit type "chariot" and the attack is a basic ability of all chariots. In that case I would have thought that the FAQ would say something like: "Page 52 – Catacomb Command Barge, Sweep Attack. Ignore this entry – refer to the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook" As it does for Land Raiders PotMS. Agreed... yet it has the unit type update but nothing like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3227177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Personally I'd stick with the codex version and definitely not try to say you get both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3227288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Maybe I'm missing something, but the only difference between the two rules I can find is the C:N version specifies 3 attacks while the BRB version specifies as per the ICs A. But all the C:N ICs I can find that can take a CCB have 3A anyway, so there is no difference? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3228469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migraine Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Maybe I'm missing something, but the only difference between the two rules I can find is the C:N version specifies 3 attacks while the BRB version specifies as per the ICs A. But all the C:N ICs I can find that can take a CCB have 3A anyway, so there is no difference? Except there's nothing stopping you from using both rules, as far as I can tell. No, I'd never do it, but RAW I can't find anything saying otherwise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3233025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiisil Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Maybe I'm missing something, but the only difference between the two rules I can find is the C:N version specifies 3 attacks while the BRB version specifies as per the ICs A. But all the C:N ICs I can find that can take a CCB have 3A anyway, so there is no difference? Except there's nothing stopping you from using both rules, as far as I can tell. No, I'd never do it, but RAW I can't find anything saying otherwise. The main reason I am allowing my 'Cron buddy to use both is with current RAW it looks like they get both. Can't wait for it to be FAQed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3238896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Maybe I'm missing something, but the only difference between the two rules I can find is the C:N version specifies 3 attacks while the BRB version specifies as per the ICs A. But all the C:N ICs I can find that can take a CCB have 3A anyway, so there is no difference? Except there's nothing stopping you from using both rules, as far as I can tell. No, I'd never do it, but RAW I can't find anything saying otherwise. The main reason I am allowing my 'Cron buddy to use both is with current RAW it looks like they get both. Can't wait for it to be FAQed If he's your buddy surely he would just agree that this is unintentional and not seek to take advantage? Not suggesting he's being unpleasant about it but I would have thought that, between friends, you would just agree to play what would seem to be the common sense version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3238918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy12009 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Codex always trumps brb unless the codex is FAQ'd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264814-chariot-sweep-attack/#findComment-3238927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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