Stormbrow II Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Leman Russ was exasperated by him Doesn't mean they disliked each other. Maybe they got on great together but when they spent too much time with each other they drove each other demented (I know plenty of siblings that are like that) whereas the Khan just got on like a house on fire with Horus? White Scars in Brotherhood of the Storm don't like being compared to the Space Wolves. What's that psychological trait - the narcissism of minor differences? I can only imagine if people kept confusing you and your sons for your brother and his sons you wouldn't be too impressed either, when the main thing you have in common is long hair and making loud noises when going into battle. I can also imagine Russ being a jokey :P about it. Russ: 'Ah, look at that. The logistics people keep confusing you and your Legion for me and mine but not the way around: I'm more famous than you!' Khan: 'You're an idiot.' Russ: 'An idiot that's more famous than you!' *Cue triumphalist bang-bang finger pointing and crotch-thrusting in the Khan's direction. But yeah, I get more and more confused about Heresy things with the more books they release as they just dig a bigger and bigger grave for the old lore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265285-brotherhood-of-the-storm/page/2/#findComment-3244581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The Khan comes off as pretty spiritual tbh, which is why it's possible he does side with Horus, given how close they are as well. I think however something bad must happen, so that the Khan has a change of heart, that would be something cool to read about imo if that happened.Not sure if the Khan himself is really that spiritual (he seems to be more pragmatic than most of his legion). However, I definitely think the legion as a whole exhibits quite a strong spiritual/poetic streak The WS take great delight in expressing their savage nature, their style of battle is wild and free. They are truly the "laughing killers", perhaps finding more joy in battle than any other legion. Their love of speed goes hand in hand with their love of freedom and open spaces. They get a thrill out of "lightning warfare", viewing it as the most beautiful way to make war. Their way of thinking shows a penchant for poetry and mysticism. They are less practical than the Wolves. The Scars view war as an expression of their souls. Staying true to their philosophy and to their own nature seems to outweigh maximising of efficiency. That is, the Scars would likely rather fight in their way (the way they enjoy) than in a more efficient way they don't enjoy. They respect strong enemies, even xenos (the Scars are quite fond of the Orks as worthy foes). Shiban even remarked that the mighty Ork warlord slain by the Khan didn't deserve such a pitiful death. The book does a great job of highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of the legion. They're extremely skilled at what they do, but they're also shown to be rather set in their ways and slow/unwilling to adopt change. I'm sure the Scars would be competent at other styles of warfare, but they truly aren't what I'd call a versatile legion. They have more of a "specialist" mentality, exhibiting a strong inclination to stick to what they enjoy/are best at. The book gives us an insight to Jaghatai Khan and his relationship with the legion. The Khan comes across as a bit haughty and cold, a ruthless, ambitious warlord in line with the more negative portrayals of Genghis Khan. He's almost like a cross between Fulgrim and Russ, though I'm sure Mr. Wraight will cast more light on the Khan's personality in the future. The Khan is constantly on the move and his warriors view him as the epitome, the perfect embodiment of all the values they hold dear. The Khan is described as always at the centre, which, I think, not only means that the Khan is usually where the fighting is most crucial (the heart of the storm, so to speak) but also that the Khan is the centre and his army must follow. The WS don't have stationery bases. They're supremely mobile and self-sufficient (like historical Mongol warriors). Thus wherever their Khan is, that is the centre. Here ends my ramblings B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265285-brotherhood-of-the-storm/page/2/#findComment-3244934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Tell you what, if White Scars can't take bikers as troops in their legion list then something is wrong, because this book seems to make point out that having heavy weapons and normal troops like the Terran Brotherhood has is more the exception than the rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265285-brotherhood-of-the-storm/page/2/#findComment-3245666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 How long is it between the Khan returning from Chondax and meeting up with the Wolves' fleet while they're fighting the Alpha Legion fleet, as seen in the Stormseers vision? I've seen ADB talk about story arcs and how he'd like to see some guys switch sides over course of the war. Keep in mind I haven't read BotS... :D Is that a veiled link to Legion? Could it be that Alpharius/Omegon did side with Horus so as to help humanity because by doing so - in the end - the Scars would remain loyal? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265285-brotherhood-of-the-storm/page/2/#findComment-3262925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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