Emperor's Furor Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 On page 115 of the Horus Heresy Collected Visions book, there's a picture of a Praetor Veteran Tactical Squad from the Ultramarines. On page 155 there's a Varnus Land Speeder Squadron. Both of these units are pretty much purple, this is a standard deviation in the Ultramarine colour scheme or should it be ignored? I'm still trying to figure out an army to do, which is driving me nuts. http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5291/dsci00553.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It's probably just an issue with the colour management. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 They're Alpha Legion in disguise. -_- Kidding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 I liked the idea of different shades to represent different parts of the legions. I was thinking that kind of purple with yellow and gold with a bit of red like the horse hair helms might be quite a cool looking army to play with. You could say go with Emperor's Children but I hate them and I actually prefer the deepish purple from those pictures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 This is the picture I'm on about for those who don't have the book. http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/5291/dsci00553.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 That looks more blue than purple, to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 That looks more blue than purple, to me. great... now conspiracy theorists will say that the Marine has purpleish armor, and a golden chalice on the shoulder pad, so it MUST be a Soul Drinker. and a psyker, probably a giraffe as well. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 It looks purple to me :/ I like the shade it is but I'm worried it was just a massive mistake and doing an army based on it might be a bad idea. Maybe calling them the Wardens of Tarentus or Wardens of Iax, which are two of the planets in Ultramar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schultzhoffen Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Looks blue to me, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 now conspiracy theorists will say that the Marine has purpleish armor, and a golden chalice on the shoulder pad, so it MUST be a Soul Drinker. Psh, no. This is where the Alpha Legion infiltration begins. :) Hmm, it does look blue, but it does purple highlights. Like severe, purple highlights. I'd say, that in the right light it could be considered purple. Although I will agree with WoT that this is a rather unique color scheme for Ultramarines because usually they are very noticeably blue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 How would you replicate it? also would you say the trimming and emblem was yellow or gold? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I think some of the fluff puts Ultramarines in Cobalt Blue, wich is a sort of deeper blue than the 40k ones. but at the end of the day its all down to artistic licencing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Did a search for Cobalt blue and several shades came out. From a deep blue almost purple to a more normal blue. http://www.stabfrenzy.com/albums/cobalt-blue/2009P110.jpg http://www.greeneglass.com/Images/DarkBlueCath1.jpg http://www.glass-enamels.com/picture/cobalt-blue-tempered-glass-enamels-4501.jpg Would this be ultramarine blue with a bit of purple added? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3234695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 i would have gone for the darker more purple shade, it makes them stand out from 40k space smurfs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarkassBC Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 now conspiracy theorists will say that the Marine has purpleish armor, and a golden chalice on the shoulder pad, so it MUST be a Soul Drinker. Psh, no. This is where the Alpha Legion infiltration begins. ;) Hmm, it does look blue, but it does purple highlights. Like severe, purple highlights. I'd say, that in the right light it could be considered purple. Although I will agree with WoT that this is a rather unique color scheme for Ultramarines because usually they are very noticeably blue. Start of Infiltration inside the Ultramarines? Have you ever looked carefully at the big symbol in the centre?... An hint, it's not a U, it's circular... look upside down and remember Alpharius has an Alpha, while Omegon has an Omega... Alpha Legion... creating confusion before everyone else... Maybe it could be a clue like the Blood Raven for the real Primarch... in the story about the Soul Drinker, everyone thought their Primarch was Rogal Dorn but during their trial someone found the DNA not matching... So we have two possible colors and two possible clues. Even for the Chalice, sincerely until now I don't remember any description of personal icons or company badges on Ultramarine heraldry... I always see the inverted Omega and a number under it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Here's what I've done as a trial Ones done with a flash the other with my dull natural lit room. http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9590/dsci00574.jpg http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8366/dsci00563.jpg http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4416/dsci00554.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 What colours did you use? Did you mix in any purple? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Edit - Double post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 I did it with a mixture of old liche purple with ultramarine blue so it had purple tinge to it, then I did a watered down blue ink over it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Maybe it could be a clue like the Blood Raven for the real Primarch... in the story about the Soul Drinker, everyone thought their Primarch was Rogal Dorn but during their trial someone found the DNA not matching... And yet both Soul Drinkers and Imperial Fists could use the Soulspear, which only responded to specific DNA..... Yet another reason why that book was a completely horrible way to end the Soul Drinkers series. Combined with several other inconsistencies within the book itself, spelling and grammar mistakes. I almost have to wonder if the editor for that book was actually doing their job that day. Hmm, with the flash it looks just like a very close match to the color from the pictures. And it seems like if I were you, I'd keep using the flash. Or at least thrown on some lights. You can barely see any detail in your natural lit room. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 I had my main light on which has a daylight bulb and my window was wide open although it's obscured a bit by my computer. I hadn't done much highlighting, what would you suggest is best to use, straight up ultramarine blue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Ooh wow, umm okay. Keep the flash. For highlights, how about enchanted blue? It won't be nearly the same shade as Ultramarine blue, but it should be a little softer while providing enough contrast to be different and show highlighting I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 It's pretty overcast here though so it's never really good. Just thin highlighting around all the edges with enchanted blue? or should I just do the upper edges? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Hmm. That part I'm not sure about. Start with the upper edges. That way if you don't like it then it will be minimized to small areas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3235493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 I've looked on several bits sites and ebay and they where either sold out or came with additional bits making them more expensive, but does anyone know where I can get my hands on a lot of the commander piece below? http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/bmz_cache/c/cc525bfd80f195e1b2264b94d811156f.image.150x137.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265396-collected-vision-art-question/#findComment-3238100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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