Tiger9gamer Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well, I still wouldn't know... Especially after Shadows of treachery. I stated what I want my knights to be multible times, but I don't know how would Dorn view the legion and vise versa. Would they hate him for only focusing on the palace during the siege of terra and vow to protect innocents when the time comes again? Or should they misunderstand the circumstances? I don't have a good answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Woops! computer kinda slowed X-X sorry for tripple post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 woopsie!! computer got when I posted it X-X Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well, I still wouldn't know... Especially after Shadows of treachery. I stated what I want my knights to be multible times, but I don't know how would Dorn view the legion and vise versa. Would they hate him for only focusing on the palace during the siege of terra and vow to protect innocents when the time comes again? Or should they misunderstand the circumstances? I don't have a good answer. Might I ask if you have an answer, good or bad? If you have one, let's hear it brother. It can be built upon, revised or refined later, so long as a kernel of an idea is there. This is the beginning of something and not all the ideas will be award winners to start with. You can always polish and polish and polish until the original idea shines, though - it just requires the first steps, the first notions, to be laid down. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well, I still wouldn't know... Especially after Shadows of treachery. I stated what I want my knights to be multible times, but I don't know how would Dorn view the legion and vise versa. Would they hate him for only focusing on the palace during the siege of terra and vow to protect innocents when the time comes again? Or should they misunderstand the circumstances? I don't have a good answer. Might I ask if you have an answer, good or bad? If you have one, let's hear it brother. It can be built upon, revised or refined later, so long as a kernel of an idea is there. This is the beginning of something and not all the ideas will be award winners to start with. You can always polish and polish and polish until the original idea shines, though - it just requires the first steps, the first notions, to be laid down. :) Alright, sounds good then... My idea was that during the heresy (army self insert X-X) a captain of the Imperial fists defending the walls noticed that the Emperor's Children where not engaging. He looked into it, getting pleas of help from various cities across the world. He became furious, gathering his company to go out and at least try to save the civilians. Dorn of course stopped him, but the idea of failing the populace burned the captain who eventually became the founder of the Iron Knights. and thats the origin story so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 That actually sounds pretty good. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Really...? huh. o-o alright, cool! maybe it should be that they see the emperor as a spirit who gives them strength at the hardest time, and that he commands them to protect humanity. and I don't think they should hate dorn, just hate being helpless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Hating being helpless is fine, I think, and could even be developed further in regard to void warfare. Unless they have an active role, they hate it, as events are out of their hands. Thus they prefer boarding actions to fleet actions. ;) Oh, and remember if you are going with the Emperor as a spirit thing, you'll have to explain the ins and outs of it in your IA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 ah, the heck with it. Imperial cult lite for them. Hmmmm.... Something like that, sure. Maybe they also hate drop pods and prefer siege warfare? (that, and I have no drop pods) how sould I write a rough draft? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLiege Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 ah, the heck with it. Imperial cult lite for them. Hmmmm.... Something like that, sure. Maybe they also hate drop pods and prefer siege warfare? (that, and I have no drop pods) how sould I write a rough draft? There many ways in writing a rough draft but most people, or from what I've seen around the forums, that they tend to do an outline of the chapter and go from there. Like their origin, homeworld(whether they have one or are fleet based), combat doctrine, their belief and such. This link should help you with starting a rough draft: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry1520507 Hopes this helps. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3239876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Alright, thanks! just have to work up the courage to do it soon X-X Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3240278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I had a new idea, but Idk if it is hokey or not. my idea is that the Iron Knights have a special organization within their ranks, named after and based off of the Knights Hospitallers ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Hospitaller ) the company are hand-picked marines from the chapter's assault squads, and are almost exclusively used to protect civilians fleeing from battle. They escort them to safety behind the Iron knight's lines, getting them out of the way so the chapter can fully use their heavy weapons without the fear of hurting civilians. In the safety of the Knights, the injured are tended to by the Chapter's Apothecaries, the rest are tended to by chapter serfs what do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3242295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLiege Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Just one quick question on the idea: Why didn't the Iron knights tell the Imperial guards to evacuate the people ASPA so they could use those marines to help support the war effort? Maybe, the Iron knights have a similar belief to that of the Sallies in protecting them until everyone is out of harms way or something like this. Just my 2-cents. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3242302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Just one quick question on the idea: Why didn't the Iron knights tell the Imperial guards to evacuate the people ASPA so they could use those marines to help support the war effort? Maybe, the Iron knights have a similar belief to that of the Sallies in protecting them until everyone is out of harms way or something like this. Just my 2-cents. ;) Hmmm.... thats a good point. They could help out the guard, or the hospitallers could be the ones who get the Civilians who arn't out in time. I think the Salamander idea is accurate, but would it be too common? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3242306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLiege Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 from what I can tell, its not something that is too common except only on the Sallies. correct me if I'm wrong on this. BTW, the link to the hospitallers foes not work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3242330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hmmm.... alight, sounds good. i got around to reading the DIY guide, so I have to ask: how humanitarian would be good? They shouldn't be 'nice' like the guide says, but I dont want them to be callous defenders. I am curious to ask, but I know I keep asking X-X also, Fixed the link. Edit: Start of IA: Iron knights is a go! look here! http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=266770 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265413-iron-knights-ideas/page/2/#findComment-3242335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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