the_mouth Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hey all, Been screwing around with BA + SW builds. I have an obscene amount of foot/jumper models and no heavy armor (some rhinos, preds etc.) Anyway, new idea for an all-foot army. Not hyper competitive of course, just seeing what I can come up with. I was just messing around and had a crazy idea, and I don't even know if it would be legal - but I think it is? Long story short - take a large dco on foot (15+ models) with a a WG BL w/ Saga of the Hunter...I think you see where I'm going with this. Either outflank or screen with wolves. Screen with fenrisian wolves for 5+ cover, BL gives unit stealth for 4+ cover while the screens last. Pack in a 2+/3++ eternal warrior WL to tank ap3 pie plate hits ro let dco take their luck w/ 4+ cover. BA libbie on foot w/ div or telepathy goes in there too. Fill out rest of chart w/ minimum GH or BC on foot; 3x long fangs in small groups scattered; some lone wolves, attack bikes...cheap bits and pieces. I'll post the whole list when I get home - but what do you think? Silly, absurd, or devious? If memory serves I got 60+ wounds into this at 1500; not bad for marines. Aside from the blob it has a ton of small points priority targets coming along for the ride - lone wolves with melta bombs, attack bikes with multi meltas. Can't remember what else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 You might be better off with a Wolf Priest over a Wolf Guard Battle Leader: - inherent Power Weapon (Maul), costs 15pts on the WGBL - inherent Invulnerable Save - Oath of War (Preferred Enemy) - Fearless - +1 Ld you lose: - 1BS, 1I, 1A, 30pts (15pts once you figure in the cost of a Power Weapon) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Never thought of that. Pretty damn nasty. Outflank with a re-roll for table edge, and can be obtained for only 80 points plus the cost of Death Company. Could actually be really strong and fairly competitive if you don't really overspend on the unit. Death Company with bolters and a couple axes should be able to just about collapse a flank on their own. I might have to try this out tomorrow if I get the chance. Props to you, sir! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Good lord Oath of War is stupid! Preferred Enemy (unit type) for the entire game, not just when they charge? rofl. 110 points for a character that can give Death Company Stealth, Outflank, Preferred Enemy (infantry), Acute Senses, and comes with a power maul and an invul save. That's absurd. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mouth Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hah, good snag on the Wolf Priest (Chaplain) didn't realize he could take Saga of the Hunter too. Way better. It seems like a wild idea. Remember too - if you don't outflank (screen from front) stealth is giving the unit 4+ cover saves as well. I'll post a list soon, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mouth Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haha...and just to add insult to injury, he still gets his Counter-attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I approve of this idea! Sounds like fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 ive been working on a BA term squad with corbs and a Wolf Priest for this combo ever since I heard about the WP. Havent managed to find anything I like yet, but DC are a nice inexpensive option too- i must defs look into that.!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Just remember we dont get oath of war Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3236916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 We don't get the pref-enemy. And you cannot assault on the turn you come on the board edge. So you are effectively paying 110pts for a character who doesn't buff the unit and can do little more than a drop pod can considering you cannot assault from either outflank or deep strike. It looks good on paper, but it is only really worth taking if you want to ally in a GH unit with Plasma and have them wander on. Can you Outflank a unit including Terminators btw? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helosv Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hello, yes you can outflank terminator unit, since your Wolf Priest or Rune Priest has the saga of the hunter (he must be in energetic armour) You can outflank a unit with vehicle too (if the vehicle is attached for this unit: here, if you take a wolf guard pack, they have a landraider vehicle...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Did I miss a stipulation in the Wolves FAQ where Oath of War only applies to Space Wolves units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Did I miss a stipulation in the Wolves FAQ where Oath of War only applies to Space Wolves units? Yeah, but it's in the FAQ. Still the Outflank, Strealth, and other goodies all still work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokhar Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Eh, without Oath of War its a bit underwhelming. As stated, a drop pod will get you there in the same amount of time or less, and pretty reliably. Stealth is nice, but not sure its worth those kind of points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I would outflank a Grey Hunters unit with 2 Plasmaguns and an attached WGPL in TDA with an Assault Cannon all on foot. That would be nasty. Wouldn't bother with anything else tbh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mouth Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Boo on the Chappie FAQ but I kinda figured that. Using just the stealth, wondering if Priest or BL would be better. I still think this could be hard to deal with given a screen, marching up the field. Going to try it out this weekend, hopefully. I might also try a level 2 telepathy librarian in there. the 30% (ish) chance of getting Invisibility is almost worth it by itself just for the lolz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It really isnt cost effective Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3237474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 This has been in the SW folder since the installment of Allies. We use your DC as Wulfen. Enjoy! XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3239235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 This has been in the SW folder since the installment of Allies. We use your DC as Wulfen. Enjoy! XD We know, and are glad that BA can help with the SW deficiencies. :P Personally the GH 2PG and WG w/ CML is a great idea. (dammit now ive run out of acronyms). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3239259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Outflanking Arjac is fun too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3239272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lol, Arjac is fun fullstop. Hes has some spectacular showings at the local - whats not to like about a man who can not only go toe to toe with a Ork Mega boss but also use the orks corpse to smash a Khorne lord into pulp? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265662-ba-sw-large-outflanking-dco/#findComment-3239330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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