The Unspeakable Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Exactly as the description says, how would you guys use your raptors in a Plague Marine army? Because the new models are sweet, and Warp Talons lack assault grenades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Taking FA choices aren't very fluffy for DG (Doctrine conflict) imho. That aside, the fluffiest choice would be to field Raptors with MoN I guess. Loadout would most likely be Meltas for AT duty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unspeakable Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 I know it isn't really very fluffy, but I'm working on an excuse cos I love the new models. Is light AT all they're good for, or is it possible to actually use them how they're meant to be used, ie. Assault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It might just be me but in an edition where CC has been nerfed into the ground I don't see the need for a fast moving assault unit that doesn't hit much (HoW aside) harder than regular CSM. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Underbelly Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think they're fluffy - I've seen some HH artwork of Death Guard raptors. Looked awesome. Twin lightning claws, melta bombs, 2 melta guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circus Nurgling Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think they're fluffy - I've seen some HH artwork of Death Guard raptors. Looked awesome. Twin lightning claws, melta bombs, 2 melta guns. Yep. By and large my favorite raptor artwork. Those jump-packs are awesome... I really hope FW puts out a mkIII assault pack version of that art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher 89 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 i run a 5 man raptor squad in my deathguard army and they work really well , mine are equip with 2 meltas and champ has twin lighting claws, i use them as either anti tank , or they have been working well to take out annoying units live tactical squads and dev squads, i try and keep them assaulting units near my diarge caster armed rhinos tho , but with MON upping there toughness to 5 against things like tactical squads and standard units they work really well. as to fluffness ive actually seen some nice art work with deathguad assault marines before, id have to google them tho, but i think they would have a very limited number of them even if they were not standard or used often by the DG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm really contemplating running 5 with dual plasma and a combi-plas on the champ, use it as a flanker to force saves on key models within a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I was considering this too. While Melta is awesome and everything, having a fast moving plasma squad could be pretty useful. I'm still aiming to get a 7man squad with 2 melta + a combi melta, but as I'd have to buy 2 boxes worth to get this, I could build 2 more with plasma, and the remaining as a champion with combi plasma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Taking FA choices aren't very fluffy for DG (Doctrine conflict) imho. But not all Nurgle Armies are Death Guard. ;) That aside, the fluffiest choice would be to field Raptors with MoN I guess.Loadout would most likely be Meltas for AT duty? I think I agree with this. You can always switch it out for plasma an use them as AI, give them smaller, softer targets to hit if you want. No idea how well it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unspeakable Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 Thanks for all the suggestions guys! Was contemplating on getting 2 boxes anyway, probably spec one for melta and one for plasma just to see how they roll. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin of Damnation Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I might be a bit late to the party, but just thought I'd chime in with my thoughts. I used them quite a bit in 5th, and avoided giving them plasma in the past, reasoning that the fnp guys should be the ones with plasma, and that assault troops with rapid fire weapons is a poor choice (relentless bikers being the exception). I don't think that rationalle has changed with 6th, but really I need to get more games in. The twin melta gun was a reasonable anti tank choice, but paying extra for T5 seems like a waste in a suicide "anti tank" role. I think in 6th their role is anti light/medium infantry where the impact hits and fear will actually do something. So I'd consider giving them two flamers, a lightning claw champ and some extra bodies. Having said that I'm not sure about them, and haven't play tested that in 6th. T5 helps you out against some overwatch hits so dirge casters aren't essential, but no overwatch fire is better than some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 There is no room in my 1500 point force for raptors, but I have just bought a box (need the meltagun for a conversion and plan for them eventually). I'm still thinking that a squad with plasmaguns could be useful, as support. While I would more likely use meltaguns (and a combi melta). Plasmagun squad + combi weapon = 6 plasma shots within 12, much more likely to do damage to a th/ss squad then 3 melta's and charging in, I'd think. Same for dealing with a hive tyrant, or DK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 City Fight? Maybe... I don't think they really have a use generally - especially now Bikers are that much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 their better than bikes at getting behind enemy lines especially HnA. If you run 5 with twin plas and ds them they are effective every turn their one the board and ver good at snipping models, shame they can't get bolters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unspeakable Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Woah, i thought this topic was closed ;) But anyway, got myself one box of raptors, have to say, I'm quite enjoying the buggers. My store ran out of stock, so I could only get one set, but I ran them with meltas for two games, in one game they destroyed a Battlewagon and killed all the burnas inside, while taking minimal losses. In the other they were completely annihilated before they could strike a blow (Curse Eldar trickery for stealing the initiative! :P ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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