DominicJ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I cant find anything specific to it Its just clicked that it probably cant be snap fired, so I cant move over 6 and shoot it, but can move 6" and shoot? Comments Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's my understanding that a BA Vindicator can fire its Demolisher when moving Cruising speed - so 12" Move and still shoot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StJude Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's my understanding that a BA Vindicator can fire its Demolisher when moving Cruising speed - so 12" Move and still shoot. That is correct, p. 83, Fast Vehicles, Shooting with Fast Vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Woohoo! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Correct me if I am wrong but the same applies for firing a Tactical Squad Missile Launcher (etc) from the top of one of our Rhinos right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 You can snap fire kraks, but not frags. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 You can snap fire kraks, but not frags. Which is a basic rule about embarked passengers. However: When a fast vehicle moves 6" it counts as stationary for the purposes of firing weaponry, which is an advanced rule used for Fast vehicles. So which one is correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 You can snap fire kraks, but not frags. Which is a basic rule about embarked passengers. However: When a fast vehicle moves 6" it counts as stationary for the purposes of firing weaponry, which is an advanced rule used for Fast vehicles. So which one is correct? But a unit of Infantry isn't a Fast Vehicle, so they can't benefit from the rules for Fast Vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It is, however, embarked on a fast vehicle that treats all shooting as stationary if it moves. So you're saying that this doesn't matter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It is, however, embarked on a fast vehicle that treats all shooting as stationary if it moves. So you're saying that this doesn't matter? Yes. Models firing out of a vehicle that moved at Combat Speed count as having moved that turn. Models firing out of a vehicle that moved at Cruising Speed can only fire Snap Shots that turn. The rules for Fast Vehicles do not change the above, they only modify the section on Shooting with Vehicles (page 71). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Strange, but Ok.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3237984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Not strange really. The vehicle is specially adapted to fire quickly on the move. The squad however is trying to shoot from a moving vehicle, which has no special adaptations to allow them to do so. For the sake of argument lets say Tactical Squad A is embarked on a C:SM Rhino, and Squad B is in a C:BA Rhino. Under your argument, Squad B would be able to fire more accurately than Squad A dispite both moving at the same speed, even though there's no difference between them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3238764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicJ Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 Fluffologicaly, the lucifer pattern engines are more efficient. This means the standard cooling system is under utilised. This spare capacity can be used by the guns to increase their rate of fire / accuracy (overclock targeting processors or some such) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265769-vindicators-on-the-move/#findComment-3238894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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