Valkyrion Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Ronseal. Does anyone on here collect anyone else's DIY chapter and how does the author feel about this? How would you feel if it was your chapter being used by someone else, even if you yourself may no longer play it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 When I first started making my chapter some one that commented on it asked if his friend could use the chapter background when making his list for a game coming up. I found it flattering, that some one else would like you're creation to use or even collect them, that's pretty cool. Though to my knowledge no one collects my chapter, there is at least one person I've inspired to paint somthing similar. Think about it, most of us use GW's chapters. If you're unsure it's always a good idea to ask the creator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3238809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I would consider it flattering. If I had the time and spare models, there are several DIYs I'd enjoy building small kill teams out of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3238818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I know that at least one other person has had Dave paint up a group of my Sons of Pryon for them to use .... as long as they don't mess with my ideas of the Chapter, they can use them no problems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3238913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If I had the models I would definitely want to build a few of the Libers' Chapters, only with the author's permission though. There's so many awesome Chapters around here that deserve to see the battlefield in the, eh, plastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 To me, if it's a wip, I say it's jumping the gun at best but if the DIY Chapter is a fully realised concept then sure, why not? Seeking permission is a common courtesy that is necessary, I think, as I would not be very pleased if someone just took the idea and ran with it without correspondence - that's just rude. However, much like the other brothers here, I'd be flattered if someone asked. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I know that at least one other person has had Dave paint up a group of my Sons of Pryon for them to use .... as long as they don't mess with my ideas of the Chapter, they can use them no problems. I also have an assault squad of White Hands sitting on my painting table. I also have a tactical squad of Red Lords and a Blazing Sons Apothecary. EDIT: I would like to add the majority of my loyalists are the Lords of Shadow, and I currently have two WIP Storm Kraken veterans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 To me, if it's a wip, I say it's jumping the gun at best but if the DIY Chapter is a fully realised concept then sure, why not? Seeking permission is a common courtesy that is necessary, I think, as I would not be very pleased if someone just took the idea and ran with it without correspondence - that's just rude. However, much like the other brothers here, I'd be flattered if someone asked. :lol: This, although I'd feel more annoyed if someone was take one of my DIY's and state that it was their idea. The names are not so much the issue for me - if someone was to want to make their own Steel Wing army (etc) then I wouldn't bat an eye lid (I don't have copyright on the words "Steel" and "Wing" after all), but if they was to take the credit for the coming up with the background I've given them, that would be another matter :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I've been thinking throughout the day... What if someone took your DIY chapter initially under good intentions, but while playing them, decided to go renegade whether you ever intended for your DIY to go renegade or not. ....and what if they abide by your fluff so well, that it actually made sense? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Well, it's all fine and dandy if they're using you're chapter with permission. Any proposed changes or additions to the chapter's history/background should go through the original author, really, as it's his baby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well, it's all fine and dandy if they're using you're chapter with permission. Any proposed changes or additions to the chapter's history/background should go through the original author, really, as it's his baby. Aye. I would like to say there's nothing wrong with making a group of traitors from a DIY loyalist chapter, but then saying you have a group of five marines from the chapter command that have been continually sustained from the best of the best of the chapter turning rogue and joining the group and have accounted for thirteen thousand astartes from that loyalist chapters... That's not quite as great of an idea to try out :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Well, it's all fine and dandy if they're using you're chapter with permission. Any proposed changes or additions to the chapter's history/background should go through the original author, really, as it's his baby. Aye. I would like to say there's nothing wrong with making a group of traitors from a DIY loyalist chapter, but then saying you have a group of five marines from the chapter command that have been continually sustained from the best of the best of the chapter turning rogue and joining the group and have accounted for thirteen thousand astartes from that loyalist chapters... That's not quite as great of an idea to try out :P Although through the Law of Averages (and Human nature), someone, somewhere out there will try it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I would think taking my guys traitor would be too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3239966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Where it makes sense, I guess. I personally wouldn't bother building a DIY unless I wanted to use it as the author intended. If the idea is to turn it to chaos, might as well create my own DIY for it. That's just me though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3240019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I can neither fully assemble a force, nor complete an IA... I sense a pattern developing in my life! :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3240024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I can neither fully assemble a force, nor complete an IA... I sense a pattern developing in my life! :rolleyes: Heh, that's the hard part for everyone! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3240042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I would think taking my guys traitor would be too much. Don't worry, your White Hands are still fanatically loyal on my table :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3240100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 The way I see it, there are 3 things that can occur to prove an authour is either finished with an IA or very nearly there: - His/Her IA makes it into the librarium - Someone paints up a small playable force (maybe even an allied force) - Said IA Chapter is included in the fiction of another writter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3240205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Way I see it, it's a free world. Common courtesy says ask and go along with the original creator's choices. But if any of my DIY's were taken (which would be a trick, since all of mine are offline), I'd be tickled. If they were modified, like following the fluff but making them go renegade, I honestly would not care. From that point on, they have begun making their own idea. It is no longer my idea, and mine is still there. I don't think anyone has any valid ownership over their own DIY. It's something you made up for fun and showed off. It would be decent of people to go along with the creator's choices, but I don't think it is a requirement. Especially in 40k, where the fluff allows for conflicting reports. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3240246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'd love for someone to take up and paint a chapter of my Blood Dragons. But then again there are 9 different Blood Dragons IA's listed in the Liber Asartes Forum. If someone were to take names, and battles, etc and claim they are theirs then so be it. Who am I to argue with someone that may or may not have read the written info I created to create thier own version of said chapter. Or to further argue that they "stole" my chapter's ideas. As said above by other member's I'd be flattered to have other members paint, and keep the fire alive with more Blood Dragon marines. But I wouldn't chastise someone for taking ideas, or claiming ideas. As stated in first sentence , who's to say; who was first in their version of the mentioned chapter when in one forum there are nine different varients of just one name. p.s. further note please someone, anyone paint a Blood Dragon :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3248955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Honestly if could really flesh out any one of my many ideas I would find it flattering that someone liked my idea enough to use it...even if it was the paint scheme or similar idea for background Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265878-does-anyone-play-someone-elses-diy/#findComment-3249181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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