Count the7 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Got a question, what is a Lucifer pattern Dreadnaught? the Big book states that it is older than the contemptor Pattern (please tell me its not the rogue trader Egg on legs) ???? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 No, I'm pretty sure the Contemptor is the Rogue Trader "egg on legs". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 One of the Loyalist World eater brother was originaly in a lucifer chassis befor it was destroyed and he was interned in a Contemptor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I really feel that most of questions like this will be unveiled with new books. At least I hope so, that would mean moar stuff :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I really feel that most of questions like this will be unveiled with new books. At least I hope so, that would mean moar stuff ;) Pre-Heresy resin kits for the Pre-Heresy resin kit god! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 my guess is a lucifer will be one of these: http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/u...t_pre_paint.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 No, I'm pretty sure the Contemptor is the Rogue Trader "egg on legs". Guys, come on : http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/dswanick/Warhammer%2040000/40K-WhiteDwarfCompendium-RogueTrader.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 my guess is a lucifer will be one of these:http://www.double-eagle.co.uk/wp-content/u...t_pre_paint.jpg Nope, Furibundus or Deredo class: http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/dswanick/Warhammer%2040000/40K-WhiteDwarfCompendium-RogueTrader-1.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Might be the Chaos mantis looking dred from Space Crusade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 I am showing my age, but that is retro rogue trader amazingness, how did you make that one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 its a true-scale scratch build i found online. search for double eagle true scale dreadnought and it pops up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3240958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Got a question, what is a Lucifer pattern Dreadnaught? the Big book states that it is older than the contemptor Pattern (please tell me its not the rogue trader Egg on legs) ???? It may just be a name for a specific load out on a Contemptor frame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Got a question, what is a Lucifer pattern Dreadnaught? the Big book states that it is older than the contemptor Pattern (please tell me its not the rogue trader Egg on legs) ???? It may just be a name for a specific load out on a Contemptor frame. Maybe a Blood Angels only one with a Twin-linked Assault Cannon arm and Fleet... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain ChonkE Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 It has that RT 'Mister Peanut' Dreadnaught look and feel! Definitely cool :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I hope this is somekind of a suggestion that in the following books we will see more army list options...I'd love to pick one of these, it has that '80s look :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Maybe a Blood Angels only one with a Twin-linked Assault Cannon arm and Fleet... a TL Kheres Assault Cannon could be scary; all contemptors have Fleet to begin with btw. maybe Scout or outflank/acute senses to make it more like a Baal predator? a lucifer pattern could also be a night lords' deep striking contemptor? one that deep strikes on its own would be scary cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 The venerable Brother in question is Juljak Nul, the Storm Walker. first Master of Ordanance of the 12th Legion (so nothing to do with Blood Angels) He was one of the first of the Legion to be interned within a Dreadnought frame, and served for more than a century within a Lucifer Pattern chassis. Which sugests to me that it is probably the oldest type of Dreadnought used by the Legions. The Contempter is the most advanced Dread chassis. and 40K ones may be of the older desighn.A boxy Dread frame is described in the Iron Within short story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 From my understanding of the HH book, the Contemptor was a deluxe, monstruous version of the normal dreadnought, that was somewhat a novelty during the crusade, and produced in few numbers compared to the demand. The Lucifer pattern Dread is the one that we all know and love :P It's strange that a heresy-era model is newer than the actual 40K stuff, but the idea is that it became unpractical to the Imperium to continue manufacture those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 my assumption is that the "normal" dreadnought is a lucifer chassis, they are available in betrayal so would make sense, has anyone read the fluff bit on the normal dread talons? maybe it has a hint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Or they just lost the knowledge to produce and keep them running. It's not really about new but advanced stuff "now" lost in 40K. Makes sense and I won't be surprised to see more since the Mechanicum will surely get new army entries. Among these there must be walkers of many kinds... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 In fact FW seems to had made the Contemptor design to be used in normal 40K as well, since the first model from them have the aquila. So there must be still some around. @Loerenzen, yeah, you're right - seems like that by the purpose of ruling, every Dread design (RT, actual, etc) is considered the same, except Contemptors for the Dread Talon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/265966-lucifer-pattern-dreadnaught/#findComment-3241907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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