Shuggnuggath Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Maybe John Grammaticus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Ignatius Grulgor, of the Death Guard.Maloghurst (not sure on this one). True true! There's the blood angle dreadnaught from the night lord books who survived as well. But he did in that book. So while he survived the HH he didn't survive all the way up to now if you know what I mean. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Most of the traitors? I must admit, I'm partly hoping we see a few more ancient venerable dreads in the loyalists other the Bjorn, but that may be the fact I really like the idea of one of my Salamander characters somehow making it to the fourty first millennium.... Though any survivors on the loyalists side are going to be heartbroken men, only clinging on in a desperate ettempt to preserve the distortion that the imperium has become, just so there is something left of mankind's glory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Arkos the Faithless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Sigismund (not sure here) Why not sure? he survived the heresy all the way up to the second founding, he may have died during the scourging but thats after the heresy.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The idea of him as a dread charecter is pretty awesome.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Though any survivors on the loyalists side are going to be heartbroken men, only clinging on in a desperate ettempt to preserve the distortion that the imperium has become, just so there is something left of mankind's glory. That would actually be a really interesting character to field. Most Space Marines believe in a kind of Imprial Truth, but what about a chapter lead by a Dread who fought at the seige of Terra or the battle of Calth and who hates the Eclesiarchy with all his being for corrupting what he once fought for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That would actually be a really interesting character to field. Most Space Marines believe in a kind of Imprial Truth, but what about a chapter lead by a Dread who fought at the seige of Terra or the battle of Calth and who hates the Eclesiarchy with all his being for corrupting what he once fought for. You mean every single Black Templar? Yeah we're pretty awesome and the eclesiarchy hates us, just look at the allies chart, even though our chapter is deep with rituals and symbolism we still cling to the imperial truth for it is the reason we still continue the great crusade that the Emperor started for that is His will..Punish the gods and their deviant followers for trying to get their hands on Mankind's rightful galaxy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think people are misunderstanding the intent of the discussion. It's not just to identify those that survived the Horus Heresy. The other half of the question pertains to them still being alive (to some degree) in M40. Here's the quote from the original post: So I recently started to wonder how many survirors of the Heresy are still around in 40k! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Veteran Captain Ventanus pretty clearly survived. AND at the end of KNF, it is mentioned that the Battle Barge Octavius is in orbit above Colchis, cyclone torpedos primed and ready. That is a ship around in 40k :lol: Logistics are certainly around too :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 You mean every single Black Templar? Yeah we're pretty awesome and the eclesiarchy hates us, just look at the allies chart, even though our chapter is deep with rituals and symbolism we still cling to the imperial truth for it is the reason we still continue the great crusade that the Emperor started for that is His will..Punish the gods and their deviant followers for trying to get their hands on Mankind's rightful galaxy! You know, I've never understood how that works. The whole "Marines do not worship the Emperor as a god, but revere him as the exemplar of humanity." thing, especially in the case of the Black Templars, who pray to the Emperor and receive visions from him before battle, or the Space Wolves, who think that when they die the Allfather will take this to his great hall so that they may fight in the final battle at Russ's side come the Wolftime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'm Alpharius! Guilliman's sword would disagree. Of course if the same guy that wrote Deliverance Lost or Fulgrim writes that bit of fiction too, then the Primarch of the Ultra Marines would probably just stand around like Patrick Star while Alpharius gives him a wedgy and porks his sister. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 What did the Alpha Legion do in Fulgrim? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Ignatius Grulgor died on the eisenstien unless nurgle brought him back salamander gravius was found on a planet by the 3rd company in 40k millennium he fought at the drop sight sigismund survived cause he was the first emperors champion and founded the black Templars but their is absolutely nothing about his death bjorn was the youngest of the wolf guard for russ and was told to stay behind for centuries he waited for russ to return but instead he became the first chapter master and took 10 companys to go to the eye of terra and was mortally wounded entombed in a dread nought the great 13th company lucius, fabius, not sure about eidolon he is alive but not if he will stay that way no one will ever know if their are any of the alpha legion captains from legion will be alive chapter master astellon of the dark angels he is still alive cypher, pretty much all of the fallen alot of word bearers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Arkos the Faithless. True. He is most likely alive (poor guy). Though any survivors on the loyalists side are going to be heartbroken men, only clinging on in a desperate ettempt to preserve the distortion that the imperium has become, just so there is something left of mankind's glory. That would actually be a really interesting character to field. Most Space Marines believe in a kind of Imprial Truth, but what about a chapter lead by a Dread who fought at the seige of Terra or the battle of Calth and who hates the Eclesiarchy with all his being for corrupting what he once fought for. Very true! Veteran Captain Ventanus pretty clearly survived. Who is that? I kind find anything on him? Sources? Ignatius Grulgor died on the eisenstien unless nurgle brought him back Nurgle did. See Grulgor's article on the front page. salamander gravius was found on a planet by the 3rd company in 40k millennium he fought at the drop sight True! Will be added! sigismund survived cause he was the first emperors champion and founded the black Templars but their is absolutely nothing about his death Sigi was indeed the first High Marshal of the BT. But since that position has been filled by other people since that might suggest that he died, right? the great 13th company Oh, right! chapter master astellon of the dark angels he is still alive cypher, pretty much all of the fallen Who is Astellon? Can't find stuff about him either! EDIT: Ah, you meant Merir Astelan! He will be added! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 chapter master Astellan he is in fallen angels and a 40k book angels of darkness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 and you have the 8 space marines who formed the grey nights Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 and you have the 8 space marines who formed the grey nights No one knows their names and it is quite likely that they have died by now. Also added some more Word Bearers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwatch/Grey knight Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 grey nights dont die easily and all we know so far one of the 8 was janus thats what his second name became and he was killed by mortarion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Toramino? Cadaras Grendel? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Toramino? Cadaras Grendel? Are they both alive? I always thought that Grendel at least was dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'm Alpharius! Guilliman's sword would disagree. Pssstt. . . .don't tell anyone, but that [probably] wasn't Guilliman. Or any Ultramarine, really. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'm Alpharius! Guilliman's sword would disagree. Pssstt. . . .don't tell anyone, but that [probably] wasn't Guilliman. Or any Ultramarine, really. ^_^ Sounds like heresy to me...or at the very least, Ultra Envy :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain ChonkE Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The source in the IA was a heretic and possibly not to be believed. After all, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he does not exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3257997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Pssstt. . . .don't tell anyone, but that [probably] wasn't Guilliman. Or any Ultramarine, really. :blink: In point of fact, it is possible that Roboute Guilliman was both Alpharius and Omegon all along, with the recruits from the XX Legion's "unknown" homeworld in fact being drawn from the hundred worlds of Ultramar. Some may ponder how such a thing could be, citing the issues of Alpharius, Omegon, and Guilliman all being seen in a variety of places at more or less the same time, and even fighting against one another on Eskrador. What these people forget that, according to Know No Fear, Roboute Guilliman was a master of LOGISTICS, whose ability to move troops and material could not even be comprehended by a non-Primarch mind, and could not be matched by any of his brothers. Ergo, it was child's play for him to manuver troops into an asteroid field and use his superior capability at LOGISTICS to manuver his way onto the Vengeful Spirit's bridge, while at the same time commanding the XIII Legion's Crusade. The guy sitting on the stasis throne at Maccrage is either Sheed Ranko, Garro, or Sevatar. I'm awaiting Betrayer and Unremembered Empire before I conclusively decide which of those three it is for certain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267242-survivors-of-the-heresy/page/3/#findComment-3258102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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