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The Cleaved proyect


Sezar

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Hello there guys!

 

Have been collecting and playing CSM for a long time, but have never put any paint on my models since now that my 1st army is finally painted (tyranids). Since I saw The Cleaved on our last Codex, I fell in love with em, and now I'm trying to start painting them.

 

Since I mostly play Khorne and Nurgle (and occasionally Slaaneshi Chosen when I'm on an Abaddon mood), but almost always on mono-God lists, I'm going to try some mostly Undivided colour squeme, so I can use the same vehicles for all of them. Anyway, Cult units will get some specific colours on their marks depending on their God.

 

So far I have tried 2 different schemes, this is the 1st one (bear in mind those are only test models, and so they're not "cleanly" painted, but mostly rushed):

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/8D1B45E7-8383-49AC-B717-5C43CC4BEF4D-18565-0000223FA05D2FA8.jpg

 

I like the really strong visual it has, but I fear it's really too Slaaneshi to be the the pattern for the whole warband, so I tried a sencond one, closer to the original GW's scheme:

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/C4620F92-BCE6-445B-920D-C16E9C7BB643-19312-0000242CD609D4AD.jpg

 

This one's now with just the mark and shoulderpad red painted for Khorne.

 

Now there is a side-by-side comparison:

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/D0B784A6-D77A-4BB4-A84C-01B48CF95EFC-19312-0000242FBE6B6897.jpg

 

Of course the right one is more "spectacular", but the left one looks more Undivided, what I'm looking for the general scheme.

 

I think I'm going to try a 3rd scheme, one between the previous two, and see what happens. Anyway, I'm seriously considering keeping the 1st scheme as the one for my Chosen :(

 

Well, in the meantime, I will wait for your critics and suggestions.

 

 

Thanks in advance!

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I think your idea to do a third between the two is correct - the first one is looks almost cadaverous but the purple trim does read a little Slaanesh. The tone of the second one is a bit too dark/warm I'd say - maybe a mix in a bit of white with the bone for the final layer to strike a good balance.
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I like both! The first one is indeed more Slaanesh . You could use that one for Mark of slaanesh Marines?

The second one 1 like the most. Looking forward to the third one!

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The Cleaved are indeed supposed to be a Nurgle-dedicated group. But it's his army, and he can do whatever he likes with them. Personally, I'm digging the idea of seeing oozing berzerkers and so on.

 

I think the first colour scheme is definitely good for Slaaneshi types. The second probably much more suited to your generic Unidivided dudes, or maybe Khorne, given the excess of actual blood. Whereas the original Cleaved scheme tended to leak strange oily fluids of various greens, browns and blacks.

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The Cleaved are indeed supposed to be a Nurgle-dedicated group. But it's his army, and he can do whatever he likes with them. Personally, I'm digging the idea of seeing oozing berzerkers and so on.

 

I didn't mean to say he was wrong- I thought I might have been mistaken. They're damn nice models, and a cool concept.

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I agree with the others, if you can find a nice in-between look combining both paint schemes, they'll look amazing. If you stick with either of these schemes, I'd go for the first. You don't have to keep the name "The Cleaved", you can branch out and form your own warband.
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Hello again!

 

I have had not much time this week for the hobby, but I managed to test a bit more on my future squeme for the army.

 

First I painted a 3rd different squeme, something between the first two ones, and got this:

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/F00955E8-E8A0-4129-9C44-05745B24E1F6-22353-00002C1D1E7C5B88.jpg

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/61CFE31F-55F1-4F44-9734-38DE73D8C96F-22353-00002C1D0875B537.jpg

 

I was lazy then, and left the bloody effect for another time, as well as badly painted the boltgun.

 

I'm really not convinced at all by this 3rd squeme. I find it too tidy clean for a chaotic model, but maybe its cause of the lack of oozy blood.

 

Then I went back to the first model, and removed a bit of purple, whitening (it is a word, btw?) it to make it look less Slaneeshi, as well as painting the Khorne marks on red as the other 2 models have.

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/47EBDCD2-2624-4BC4-A282-C41253202A1B-22388-00002C2B01A3B907.jpg

 

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii55/Sezareo/Caos/WIP/747A0729-72D6-4FA5-B542-39294E445D84-22388-00002C2BC49CCC1C.jpg

 

Now I'm happier with it, even while it lost a bit of its aggressivity, but I think I like it better now. Anyway, I feel like the second model is still a good choice because: 1) It is more Undivided-like, and 2) It is a way faster and easier squeme to paint, what would make painting the whole army really easier... but on the other side, it looks more plain and boring.

 

But still, I guess that the 3rd squeme (left one on the last picture), could be the closest to the original The Cleaved concept, so here I am again, swimming in a sea of choices and doubts.

 

What do you think? Your comments will be greatly welcomed! :D

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Ohh, and for the bases, I would really love to do them with losts of ashes and/or snow, as I have never tried anything like that (my nids are all on lava bases, and I'm looking for something radically opposite, for a change).

 

I have bought some Vallejo pigments, which I've never worked with, but I'm struggling to guess how one can get snow out of those pigments. I have read about ash, dirt... but can't find anyway where somone tells me how to get snow with pigments (mine's Vallejo Titanium White, 73101).

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