Aegis Defence Line

[CommissarHarris]

I have recently dragged my sisters out of the deepest recesses of my cupboard to play again. I have been playing games against my ususal opponents and been finding they work quite well. They have a well rounded set of options, enough to set up targeting dilemas in the mind of my opposition. One area the codex seems deficient in is Anti-Air. Now I know there are several options to cover this off (Allies with AA, Forgeworld Fliers etc), However one of my regular opponents in particular has recently been demonstrating to me the value of an Aegis Defence line with a Point Defence gun. These are good not only if the opposition brings a flier, but fantastic against ground targets. My question is therefore two fold:

1) does any one else have experince with these as a sisters player and what would be the Ideal model to crew the gun;

2) Has anyone had any ideas or done any conversion work to Ecclesiarchy-fy an Aegis Defence line.

 

 

I dont realy want to just use the one out of the box and Im not a Fan of the "Wall of martyrs" kit. If it was modelled with dead eldar on the barricades I might consider it, but dead Cadians? I don't play Cadians. I play Adepta. I Kill Eldar and Tau (Regularly).

[Naminé]

I have recently dragged my sisters out of the deepest recesses of my cupboard to play again. I have been playing games against my ususal opponents and been finding they work quite well. They have a well rounded set of options, enough to set up targeting dilemas in the mind of my opposition. One area the codex seems deficient in is Anti-Air. Now I know there are several options to cover this off (Allies with AA, Forgeworld Fliers etc), However one of my regular opponents in particular has recently been demonstrating to me the value of an Aegis Defence line with a Point Defence gun. These are good not only if the opposition brings a flier, but fantastic against ground targets. My question is therefore two fold:

1) does any one else have experince with these as a sisters player and what would be the Ideal model to crew the gun;

2) Has anyone had any ideas or done any conversion work to Ecclesiarchy-fy an Aegis Defence line.

 

 

I dont realy want to just use the one out of the box and Im not a Fan of the "Wall of martyrs" kit. If it was modelled with dead eldar on the barricades I might consider it, but dead Cadians? I don't play Cadians. I play Adepta. I Kill Eldar and Tau (Regularly).

 

Well I Haven't seen one as described, But I have seen a Ramshackle collection of scrap for an Ork army, and a wall of green nodes used by necrons.

I shouldn't think it would be too hard to think of something similar for sisters.

 

I use a Bastion myself, but for a line I would favour the use of Retributors for a quad gun (twin-linked 4 shots and rending act of faith!).

For a Lascannon I would choose a cannoness or Dominion squad depending on slots available, the latter of which makes the shot Twin-linked.

[RookBartly]

I pretty much always run the defense line nto with quad gun. Just about everyone one at my store uses flyers. I always stash Retributors with a few extra bodies in it to man it. The rending allows it to punch thru even the heaviest flyers.

 

As far as Sisters-ifying mine, I have a very very ordnate sisters with silver and gold armor. I am working on painting my defense line to match the scheme. I also have a few extra bits from my Immolators and Exorcists that I am mounting to the defense line.

[Faithwing]

Hey guys!

 

1st time poster over here in the convent, but Sisters are my primary army, with Space Wolves being the secondary.

 

Anyway, I did give my ADL a little SoB make over, check it out: My Blog

 

As you can see, it's definitely a work in progress, as you can see a lot of stuff needs to be washed, layered, and touched up, but I wanted my ADL to have a Sister twist... especially since we don't have too many great units in our dex as is.

 

As for the weaponry, I always roll with the QG. Flyer armor isn't that hot, so 4 S7 TL'd shots will usually be enough.

 

After I finish this ADL, I plan to Sister out my Bastion I just got!

 

Burn heretics!

[CommissarHarris]

I have recently dragged my sisters out of the deepest recesses of my cupboard to play again. I have been playing games against my ususal opponents and been finding they work quite well. They have a well rounded set of options, enough to set up targeting dilemas in the mind of my opposition. One area the codex seems deficient in is Anti-Air. Now I know there are several options to cover this off (Allies with AA, Forgeworld Fliers etc), However one of my regular opponents in particular has recently been demonstrating to me the value of an Aegis Defence line with a Point Defence gun. These are good not only if the opposition brings a flier, but fantastic against ground targets. My question is therefore two fold:

1) does any one else have experince with these as a sisters player and what would be the Ideal model to crew the gun;

2) Has anyone had any ideas or done any conversion work to Ecclesiarchy-fy an Aegis Defence line.

 

 

I dont realy want to just use the one out of the box and Im not a Fan of the "Wall of martyrs" kit. If it was modelled with dead eldar on the barricades I might consider it, but dead Cadians? I don't play Cadians. I play Adepta. I Kill Eldar and Tau (Regularly).

 

Well I Haven't seen one as described, But I have seen a Ramshackle collection of scrap for an Ork army, and a wall of green nodes used by necrons.

I shouldn't think it would be too hard to think of something similar for sisters.

 

I use a Bastion myself, but for a line I would favour the use of Retributors for a quad gun (twin-linked 4 shots and rending act of faith!).

For a Lascannon I would choose a cannoness or Dominion squad depending on slots available, the latter of which makes the shot Twin-linked.

 

 

Hey guys!

 

1st time poster over here in the convent, but Sisters are my primary army, with Space Wolves being the secondary.

 

Anyway, I did give my ADL a little SoB make over, check it out: My Blog

 

As you can see, it's definitely a work in progress, as you can see a lot of stuff needs to be washed, layered, and touched up, but I wanted my ADL to have a Sister twist... especially since we don't have too many great units in our dex as is.

 

As for the weaponry, I always roll with the QG. Flyer armor isn't that hot, so 4 S7 TL'd shots will usually be enough.

 

After I finish this ADL, I plan to Sister out my Bastion I just got!

 

Burn heretics!

 

Checked out the shots on the blog. Nice! So Take an ADL and add icons and other bling from Immolator/Rhino kits? I hadn't really thought of that. My thinking so far was either the Quantum Gothic walls and add the Big Fleur De Lis roundels, use the or Ziterdies Foam Trenches and add some Sorotitas Standards.

 

I have played one game so far with the quad cannon, manned by Celestine, attached to Seraphim. I fancied the BS7 crewing the gun, but its a bit of a waste of a superb mobile unit. I will try Retributors on the Auto Cannon to get the Rending.

 

Oh amd I'm looking forward to seeing the Finshed Product, with a few Sisters crewing the gun!

[Faithwing]

Wow! Those Quantum terrain pieces are gorgeous!

 

I just recently purchased the Imperial Sector building set, along with the Battlescape, and Honored Imperium terrain sets. Should spruce up the board.

 

Yeah, green light on the Immolator bitz. I had so many bitz leftover from the Immolator, and Exorcist sprues. That, along with the problem of SoB having no legit answer to flyers... it just kinda came together. Plus, I really wanted it to fit in with the rest of the force.

 

The cool thing about SoB stuff - the gaudier, the better! So I had to make that QG uber tacky.

 

I'd be interested to see what you will throw together.

 

I just finished a "Purge the Alien" mission against Tau (one of my usual opponents too!).

 

15-10. SoB win.

 

I tried something new - Jacobus with 20 Battle Sisters with 3 Storm Bolters thundering across the board.

 

Feel No Pain on 20 3+ bodies is awesome, with a ton of dakka to boot!

[*Furyou Miko]

Storm Bolters are a bit of a waste there. You're gonna be in bolt pistol range before you charge, and 3 extra bolter shots is rarely going to turn the tide, where 3 meltagun shots or flamers would have slaughtered.

[Faithwing]

I was debating that, but I wanted to do something different.

 

It took so friggin' long to get to the other side, the extra 12" from the Storm Bolters was helpful, since they could fire in concert with the 24" Boltgun shots.

 

I had another squad with a Heavy Flamer, and a Meltagun. Their transport got popped, and they never got to use either special weapon because of the range.

 

In that game, it really did come down to every last shot, so the +3 dakka was welcomed.

 

But generally speaking, ya - get your fiery weapons in every time. I've only ever ran Storm Bolters on Superiors in Retributor squads.

 

Like I said, I tried something new.

[Naminé]

Wow! Those Quantum terrain pieces are gorgeous!

 

I just recently purchased the Imperial Sector building set, along with the Battlescape, and Honored Imperium terrain sets. Should spruce up the board.

 

Yeah, green light on the Immolator bitz. I had so many bitz leftover from the Immolator, and Exorcist sprues. That, along with the problem of SoB having no legit answer to flyers... it just kinda came together. Plus, I really wanted it to fit in with the rest of the force.

 

The cool thing about SoB stuff - the gaudier, the better! So I had to make that QG uber tacky.

 

I'd be interested to see what you will throw together.

 

I just finished a "Purge the Alien" mission against Tau (one of my usual opponents too!).

 

15-10. SoB win.

 

I tried something new - Jacobus with 20 Battle Sisters with 3 Storm Bolters thundering across the board.

 

Feel No Pain on 20 3+ bodies is awesome, with a ton of dakka to boot!

 

I've been testing the exact same setup, but I didn't consider running Uriah with them... That's not a bad idea at all.

 

The 24" Dakka re-rolling 1's is pretty good against infantry.

[Faithwing]

Yeah, it's not something that I had ever considered either.

 

Usually when you take a Confessor you MUST take a Battle Conclave... just because it's that awesome. And it's always the correct choice.

 

But it is a cool way to make 20 bodies with a 3+ even more annoying to erase.

 

I honestly just got tired of the St. Cel, Seraphim, 2-3 Exorcist routine, and wanted to work a different angle - toggling with Faith Points.

 

The list I ran last night was more about Acts of Faith. Pretty experimental, and it has earned itself a 2nd try.

[CommissarHarris]

I decided to go with the Quantum Gothic walls and the Quantum cannon as a gun. I'll post up once they are painted. I've used the Aegis Defence line once more with Celestine Crewing it, attached to Battle sisters. In an epic example of my ledgendary bad dice, she it once and failed to penetrate a Necron flye. I abandoned the gun after that in order to heavy flame some advancing necrons.

 

One interesting question though:

So Celestine has BS7, which means two to hit rolls, one at 2+ followed by a 5+. She is crew for a twin link gun, which is re-rollmisses. Do I re-roll both? or one? and if its one, which one do i re-roll? I would have thought it was both, as the 5+ is not technically a re-roll. Then to muddy the waters, she was subject to Light of the Emperor and therefore re-rolling 1's to hit. Is this on both 2+/5+ ? and before or after twin linked? My argument was to apply them in the following order:

 

- BS7 = 2+ and re-roll ones (From Light of the Emperor )

- BS7 = 5+ and re-roll ones (From Light of the Emperor )

- Twin Link, which allows

- BS7 = 2+ and re-roll ones (From Light of the Emperor , or not because I already used it?)

- BS7 = 5+ and re-roll ones (From Light of the Emperor , or not because I already used it?)

 

My opponent, could barely get his head around the BS7 allowing two rolls to hit, let alone re-rolls of re-rolls. I think in the end he argued:

- BS7 = 2+

- BS7 = 5+ and re-roll ones (From Light of the Emperor )

- Twin Link, which allows

- BS7 = 2+

 

And I rolled a lot of ones. One hit. Failed to penetrate.

 

Which one is right?

[Fibonacci]

So Celestine has BS7, which means two to hit rolls, one at 2+ followed by a 5+. She is crew for a twin link gun, which is re-rollmisses. Do I re-roll both? or one? and if its one, which one do i re-roll? I would have thought it was both, as the 5+ is not technically a re-roll. Then to muddy the waters, she was subject to Light of the Emperor and therefore re-rolling 1's to hit. Is this on both 2+/5+ ? and before or after twin linked? My argument was to apply them in the following order:

You only ever get a single reroll, no matter how many you may have allowed.

Rolling for BS 7 is 2+ and if that misses, 5+. All of this is a single roll.

You did roll a 1 to hit; the second die is not a reroll, it is in addition to the first die. It is like saying you got a 1 but what kind of 1 did you get. So Light of the Emperor allows a reroll. Twin-linked also allows a reroll. Pick one because one reroll is all you get.

When rerolling, you roll all dice including scatter unless the rules specifically says otherwise. But in the case of high BS rolls, it is considered to be a single die anyway.

 

- BS7 = 2+

- BS7 = 5+

- One reroll from either Twin Link OR re-roll ones from Light of the Emperor leads to:

- BS7 = 2+

- BS7 = 5+

[CommissarHarris]

Aegis Defence Line is finished. A bit of a rush job to get them into play. Iw ill revisit to aff some icons, decals and rust streaks in the future.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qwHVkPtfKQA/UNw5Ra6DMdI/AAAAAAAABBc/ByGZkyWN-mM/s1600/HolyAegis.JPG

 

I went for a cast concrete and Bronze gilting look.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KleU7THvO90/UNw5TKBGdVI/AAAAAAAABBk/4o-K8iW_PLs/s1600/HolyAegisDefenceLine_2.JPG

 

 

Tell me what you think

[Hanska]

Looks great! Really fits sisters better than the official one.

[*Furyou Miko]

Looks really good. Kind of reminds me of the Wall of Martyrs and the Dawn of War Sisters' architecture.

[RookBartly]

Dude! Where did you get those walls! they are totally awesome!

[Brother Bobert]

This is my first attempt to make make my own ADL. Going to end up making the connections and then some variance with barbed wire as a topper.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Ronnen/GEDC0819_zpsff4f62de.jpg

[CommissarHarris]

Looks very nice! Barbed wire topper is a great idea, one i may have to ste...., borrow. :-). Hve you given thought to how he gun emplacement will look?

[Brother Bobert]

Looks very nice! Barbed wire topper is a great idea, one i may have to ste...., borrow. :-). Hve you given thought to how he gun emplacement will look?

 

I haven't thought about making a gun or a com relay yet. I might cheat a bit and just use my exorcist part as the quad gun.

[Obliterator]

Aegis Defence Line is finished. A bit of a rush job to get them into play. Iw ill revisit to aff some icons, decals and rust streaks in the future.

It's looking ace already! Very nice work. How does it measure up against the stock GW one size-wise?

[CommissarHarris]

It's looking ace already! Very nice work. How does it measure up against the stock GW one size-wise?

The length of the shorts and longs is exact, it's almost like it was purpose built alternative ;-) . The only thing i would say is that the GW ones allow more funky placement like 90 degree corners and such, which would somewhat spoil the illusion on this one. I bought the set which came with 4 inner corners and four outer corners, so I get by. I have yet to finish the gun, I am dithering on using the Quantum gun as bought or modding the mount to a Quad Cannon.

[BenjamminUK]

Aegis Defence Line is finished. A bit of a rush job to get them into play. Iw ill revisit to aff some icons, decals and rust streaks in the future.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qwHVkPtfKQA/UNw5Ra6DMdI/AAAAAAAABBc/ByGZkyWN-mM/s1600/HolyAegis.JPG

 

I went for a cast concrete and Bronze gilting look.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KleU7THvO90/UNw5TKBGdVI/AAAAAAAABBk/4o-K8iW_PLs/s1600/HolyAegisDefenceLine_2.JPG

 

 

Tell me what you think

 

This Harris is Awesome!! And I'm going to apologies now but I will be ordering one once there shop reopened for 2013,

 

Sorry everyone for bumping pics just loved it so much :-)

 

How you getting on with quad cannon ??

[BenjamminUK]

It's looking ace already! Very nice work. How does it measure up against the stock GW one size-wise?

The length of the shorts and longs is exact, it's almost like it was purpose built alternative ;-) . The only thing i would say is that the GW ones allow more funky placement like 90 degree corners and such, which would somewhat spoil the illusion on this one. I bought the set which came with 4 inner corners and four outer corners, so I get by. I have yet to finish the gun, I am dithering on using the Quantum gun as bought or modding the mount to a Quad Cannon.

 

Do you know what theses you purchased was called as I'm trying to contact QG to purchase one cos there shop is closed but after seeing yours I want one lol

[BenjamminUK]

Also Harris what is the platform the MM sister is stood on .?

[CommissarHarris]

I Bought the Quantum Gothic Defense Line Pack Came with 5 Straight, 1 Quantom Cannon Emplacement, 2 Shattered ends, 4 short concave turns and 4 short convex and a the Quantom Cannon. The platform they are standing on is the Quantom Cannon Emplacement Minus the gun. I have the gun, just not painted.

 

How am i Getting on with the Quad cannon? Not so good now. My regular opposition runs Dark Eldar, and they have figured out that the quad-cannon has a toughness value, 1st turn they can power forward and shoot the gun with a barge filled with fish-heads toting poison weapons (wounds on a 4+ regardless of tougnness).

You can only make so many 3+ saves (In my case ususally around 20%) before the gun is toast. Its main use has become, dictating the deployment of at least one barge filled with Fish-faces. I am considering dropping the cannon in favour of I know not what.