Ragnars Claw Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I keep getting toasted by them. If the flamers don't wipe me out then the screamers do. Add Fateweaver stood in the middle of it all and they seem like an autolose in my (limited!) experience. Has anybody had any joy against them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Are you running a vindicator? I keep looking at them and thinking "they aren't that tough" then I get spanked by them. GS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnars Claw Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 No vindicator for me. I think the flamers would just junk it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Plasma Fangs? GS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Plasma Fangs? GS with plasma fangs and even frag missiles, due to the new rules on blast templates they ignore cover - this makes them 10x better :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Tempest's Wrath. It will make the demons player deploy outside that bubble. It will be harder for them to get into range turn one to drop templates on your army. Remember that rune staffs wound demons on 2+. My only experience vs demons was a draw. But Tempest's wrath prevented him from lighting me up too early. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Dan might have just solved it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Tempest's Wrath isn't that impressive- First, the demons have to roll difficult terrain checks. So only ~ 1 in 6 demons is in any danger (Dice being dice, this number will of course vary). Even if the Demon does take a wound, it's still got it's invulnerable save; In the case of flamers, it's a 4+, so you're only going to hurt 1 in 12 demons. The advantage is if your opponent hasn't caught onto infantry not really giving a crap about normal dangerous terrain in 6th edition. Other stuff- Allies offer a wide variety of advantages (Codex Marine librarians with Null zone will halve the number of armor saves they make, while Inquisitor Coteaz with a squad of Strike Knights is an anti-deep strike defense Demons have a genuine reason to fear), but in codex, you still have a couple of options. Fenrisian Wolf Screens will keep the flamers at arms reach, and of course Runic Weapons will make mincemeat of all but the most powerful of demons, particularly if you've got saga of the beastslayer giving you re-rolls against their monstrous creatures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Deepstriking into difficult terrain still cause mishaps? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Deepstriking into difficult terrain still cause mishaps? Nope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3263409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Tempest will deter a little, but my friend ran daemons for a long time, and the day he realized that tw really isn't that was the day I grew to hate daemons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/267921-so-ermhow-is-everyone-doing-against-daemons/#findComment-3264183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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