Haunter! Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Those knuckle duster lightning claws just keep moving further and further from the gauntlet don't they? Bah, I really don't see anything to scavenge for my Night Lords from this release. Not even seeing anything to procure for my loyalists... At least my DA brother will get some new bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3265992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The bus-length Land Speeder looks like it ought to belong in 30K-era. Well it is from that era... and you know... Dark Angels have loads of relics. You don't want to go down that logic trail here. I'm looking around my CSM Codex full of 'relics' and I don't see any bus-length Land Speeders (or any other Land Speeders for that matter) in it. If they pass off this thing's existence as anything but someone's post-Heresy Good Idea Fairy, then there's clearly no hope for this game until the entire design studio is purged and replaced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3266551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Yeah the new models look stupid, but no more stupid than our new models which were uniformly bad as well. Actually, the Deathwing are at least "pretty ok" which is better than any of the crap we got save maybe the fiend if it has a plasma head instead of the angry cartoon dinosaur and I guess the hellturkey if you squint. The more important issue is that they are getting a terminator variant, because y'know, Deathwing needs 2 different units to be properly represented, while we still don't get proper cult Terminators, nevermind "Chosen" terminators to represent 10,000 year veterans. It's like a bad running joke with Chaos as the punchline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3266568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazath Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 But we cannot wish for terminator variants because they would be too complicated to make rules for and it would totaly make our codex OP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3266571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lootzer Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 After seeing this I'm worried that 40k is shifting towards WHFB with all those stupid ideas for units/models. First dinobots now Landspeeder :cuss variant with pintlemounted marine. Cmon. I'm waiting for Eldar version of Luminark of Hysh and Ork War Altar. The termie knights with maces are cool thou. Still it's a shame we dindn't get a new termie box and unit too... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3266676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think current chaos termies look better. Agree, for me, only terminators that look better than chaos terminators are Black Templars with FW upgrades. The only thing I like in whole this DA model range is a 2-handed terminator power axe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3266737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I do like the new FW Heresy-Era terminators. Enough that I've considered saving up to replace my current squad of 10+. I also like the GK terminator design better than ours. And there are some issues on our terminators with the raised-rim shoulder pads fitting on alongside the spikey trophy racks. And the latter are prone to breaking. And the detail is notably less fine / more cartoony than on, say, the Dark Vengeance chosen. Overall, I do think we have some of the better terminator models, though. I wouldn't trade them for the new dark angels, although if I was a dark angels player I wouldn't be disappointed, either. I think the termies are 'ok', the bikes and fliers look good, and the upscaled skimmer is more than a little underwhelming. Overall, I would rate the model release as seen so far as about on the level of the release we got, but not up to the standards set by the GK, Dark Eldar, or Necron releases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3266744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brindley Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 So far all i've heard from DA players is disappointment at this release to the cheese or stupid factor related to a lot of the models previously mentioned. I won't be surprised if the codex winds up being gross and people take it just for that. It has potential to really add to the meta of plasma, which is unfortunate as I thought plasma was being used a lot as is...And I think the mace terminators are HORRIBLE. apparently one rumor for them is that they can get an ability to put their attacks up to s10 ap 2. I'm actually happy I hate this range because it prevents me from buying yet another army haha. Sorry if that was a bit of a rant, I just hate GW more and more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3267092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Yeah... This release does not look better than ours. I kind of like the snubby flier & the bikes, the terminators are ok, but not great, and that giant landspeeder.... I mean, the dude on front has his body where the engine should be! shucks? And either he's got legs dangling out the bottom, or he doesn't have legs at all. Who thought that was a good design? Honestly, I was kind of hoping for better. What happened to the Dark Eldar release? Everything was so awesome for that, it seems since then things have been on a decline. Hopefully the rules are good, at least. DA deserve something cooler than they've had. Well Mal, you have to keep in mind the dramatic difference between the Dark Eldar and the Dark Angels (or any army for that matter) The Dark Eldar were the most outdated army in the game. Every single model looked pretty rancid and their fluff hadn't been touched for nearly 3 editions. They had to do a MASSIVE overhaul on the entire army to fit it up to par with all the other armies and they were not inhibited by current standing lore/modeling design because there was none. Dark Angels/Chaos/ and virtually any space marine army suffers because there is a heavy set of standards and pillars that are already in place for the army. Unlike the Dark Angels, who's models are constantly being updated over all as Space Marine models are continued to be released (im talking quality of marine models in general, not just dark angel bitz), there's very little that needs major updating. Most of the current models look just fine and are also selling just fine so the one thing they can really turn to is making new stuff to add to the existing. Necrons are sort of the midway point on this. While they did get alot of pretty new models due to their old codex like the dark eldar, alot of models also stayed because they looked just fine. Just my two cents on that subject. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3267156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 It's fine if they don't see as many new kits as the dark eldar, but having fewer total new kits only makes it more disappointing when the average quality of those releases is significantly lower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3267320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Thinking about it more, depending on how the rules pan out I may be tempted to make a Deathwing army, I've always had a thing for terminators but you can't make anything resembling a working army out of ours and I can't stand the fluff for Space Wolves and Grey Knights. Hmm, we'll have to see I suppose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3267357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ifrit446 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Thinking about it more, depending on how the rules pan out I may be tempted to make a Deathwing army, I've always had a thing for terminators but you can't make anything resembling a working army out of ours and I can't stand the fluff for Space Wolves and Grey Knights. Hmm, we'll have to see I suppose. This. To be honest, I like the idea of having an entire Termie force and the Angels are the reasonable ones to appeal to that. I'm planning mine as a supplement to my Chaos force, so that I can have either an entire Termie force or a true-scale marine force that count as termies. Either way, the current codex does not let us do a full termie force so the Angels is where I'm looking to start. -Ifrit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268129-dark-angels-leak/page/2/#findComment-3267423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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