Cmdr Shepard Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Greatings fellow Legionaries, What do you think is the best weapons configuration for Contemptor dreads? I'm thinking about dual Kheres and Cyclone ML. What do you think? Do you believe the Contemptor needs a DCCW instead of two arms mounted ranged weapons? Thanks for your assistance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Dual Kheres or Dual TLAC, either with Cyclone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Kheres is good. I've tried the Graviton gun a few times, and it is fun, but not particularly effective against Marines. I prefer the Plasma Blaster. I've thought about switching up my two Contemptors, and running one with dual Kheres and one with dual plasma-fists. It would be more specialized, maybe more effective, since I've found the Contemptors are usually pretty big targets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Dual Kheres or Dual TLAC, either with Cyclone. Cant take a cyclone launcher but you can take a Havoc Launcher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Ooooo... Picky :rolleyes: I went with Kheres and Fist. It looks cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I have 3 Contemptors. One in a Mortis config with Dual Kheres and a Havoc launcher, one with a single Kheres and a power fist/combi bolter, and one with a power fist/heavy flamer and a chainfist/plasma blaster. Anyone who says melee dreadnoughts are dead is amusingly wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Dual Kheres or Dual TLAC, either with Cyclone. Cant take a cyclone launcher but you can take a Havoc Launcher IA-Apoc 1.2 clearly has the entry as "may also have a Carapace-mounted Cyclone Missile Launcher"... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Normal Contemptors can take the cyclone, but HH Contemptors do not have the option. They can use havoc launchers. My vote is for two kheres, that's a sick amount of dakka. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Normal Contemptors can take the cyclone, but HH Contemptors do not have the option. They can use havoc launchers. My vote is for two kheres, that's a sick amount of dakka. Understood. I suppose the cyclone has been issued to SM after the heresy. I have 3 Contemptors. One in a Mortis config with Dual Kheres and a Havoc launcher, one with a single Kheres and a power fist/combi bolter, and one with a power fist/heavy flamer and a chainfist/plasma blaster. Anyone who says melee dreadnoughts are dead is amusingly wrong. I was tempted to build a melee Contemptor. I suppose I could build at least one of them. I'm planning to buy at least 2, possibly 3, Contemptors so they could fill different roles. AV13 melee dreads are not dead :lol:. Many players have issues with AV12 melee walkers due enemy grenades. Anyway how do you represent the Havoc launcher? Do you use the Contemptor Cyclone ML kit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Anyway how do you represent the Havoc launcher? Do you use the Contemptor Cyclone ML kit? Just used the Cyclone since I assembled that Contemptor prior to Betrayal's release ( Games Day 2011 is when I got it IIRC ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Normal Contemptors can take the cyclone, but HH Contemptors do not have the option. They can use havoc launchers. My vote is for two kheres, that's a sick amount of dakka. Ah, right. Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Anyway how do you represent the Havoc launcher? Do you use the Contemptor Cyclone ML kit? Just used the Cyclone since I assembled that Contemptor prior to Betrayal's release ( Games Day 2011 is when I got it IIRC ). If I'm not mistaken there is not an official Contemptor Havoc launcher kit. Right? I think one of the Contempt I plan to field must have a dual Kheres. If I remember correctly the Kheres have skyfire and intereceptor rules. Bringing down those xenos fighters in their own movement phase is priceless :yes: According to my order shipping info I should recieve Betrayal on Monday, then I'll be able to see how many contemptors I'll be fielding in my next army. :P As I mentioned in my previous post even a melee version is quite interesting... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think one of the Contempt I plan to field must have a dual Kheres. If I remember correctly the Kheres have skyfire and intereceptor rules. Bringing down those xenos fighters in their own movement phase is priceless Correction, the Mortis has if stationary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Just to be clear; the HH mortis configuration is not the FW mortis that has skyfire and interceptor. Its the 40k mortis configurations that get skyfire and interceptor, not the 30k ones. 30k your skyfire options are flak missiles on vet squads and devastator squads (? rules not handy). I don't recall if the WW gets it in 30k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Just to be clear; the HH mortis configuration is not the FW mortis that has skyfire and interceptor. Its the 40k mortis configurations that get skyfire and interceptor, not the 30k ones. 30k your skyfire options are flak missiles on vet squads and devastator squads (? rules not handy). I don't recall if the WW gets it in 30k Ok. Well there is always the Caestus :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Just to be clear; the HH mortis configuration is not the FW mortis that has skyfire and interceptor. Its the 40k mortis configurations that get skyfire and interceptor, not the 30k ones. 30k your skyfire options are flak missiles on vet squads and devastator squads (? rules not handy). I don't recall if the WW gets it in 30k Ugh... I really need that FW book... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3266947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim AMM realgenius Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ugh... I really need that FW book... It is worth every penny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ugh... I really need that FW book... It is worth every penny. Yeah, but getting it is kinda hard with no GW stores around and no credit card. Unless I feel like forking over £300 in one go to avoid the credit-card requirement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ugh... I really need that FW book... It is worth every penny. Yeah, but getting it is kinda hard with no GW stores around and no credit card. Unless I feel like forking over £300 in one go to avoid the credit-card requirement. Just pm'd you mate to see if I can help with that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratul29 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Well theres also the storm eagle for anti flyer, but thats also expensive..... Well i ran two contemptors in my first HH game, 1 with dual plasma, and 1 with las and mm combo, they didn't really make up their points, but then again the plasma one was shooting a squad in 4+ cover with an apothecary... I'm thinking the dual kheres and a dual fist one as well, 3 contemptors are about 600 points(depending on how their equipped, maybe more).... even though their great, thats a huge chunk of your points. But for 2k plus, I plan on running my warhound as my lord of war hehehe :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Well theres also the storm eagle for anti flyer, but thats also expensive..... Well i ran two contemptors in my first HH game, 1 with dual plasma, and 1 with las and mm combo, they didn't really make up their points, but then again the plasma one was shooting a squad in 4+ cover with an apothecary... I'm thinking the dual kheres and a dual fist one as well, 3 contemptors are about 600 points(depending on how their equipped, maybe more).... even though their great, thats a huge chunk of your points. But for 2k plus, I plan on running my warhound as my lord of war hehehe :P The Caestus is not cheap too :P I know 3 contemptors in a single 2000 pts are a lot of points. I was actually thinking about bulding 3 of them not using all of them in a single match at all costs ;) . As you said 2 of them (dual kheres and dual fists) could be good choice. I thought you needed more then 2000pts to field a warhound. My Betrayal book will arrive on Monday so I'll finally see what Lords of War I'm able to play at 2000pts, the usual match size in my gaming community. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Yeah he said 2k plus, your lord of war can't be more than 25% of total points value, so your looking at nearer 3k to field a war hound. Nothin wrong with larger sized battles if you have the models tho, because of how quickly those points add up, size of your army and game time will probably remain about the same as 40k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Yeah he said 2k plus, your lord of war can't be more than 25% of total points value, so your looking at nearer 3k to field a war hound. Nothin wrong with larger sized battles if you have the models tho, because of how quickly those points add up, size of your army and game time will probably remain about the same as 40k I really like large battles. If I had to choose I'd play 3000/3500 pts matches as standard. The problem is very few players in my gaming community share this opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Shame you don't live in uk mate, I'm all about large epic battles, I'm tryin to convince my mates to do a 5k battle. On topic, dual kheres is a good option if you ask me, dual ccw is another, I'm also using a heavy conversion Beamer and kheres. Do you think normal dreads load outs should be similar or is no one thinking of taking them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Shame you don't live in uk mate, I'm all about large epic battles, I'm tryin to convince my mates to do a 5k battle. On topic, dual kheres is a good option if you ask me, dual ccw is another, I'm also using a heavy conversion Beamer and kheres. Do you think normal dreads load outs should be similar or is no one thinking of taking them. I really like the "fluffy feeling" you can perceive during large epic battles. I truly believe the best matches are the ones that allows us to "tell a story", to "make our fluff" or exploring the already existing one. Sadly several players prefer small matches when they field totally un-fluffy armies, exploiting "rules holes", or unbalanced mechanics just to win at all costs. It's really a shame. Oh, and for the records most of the WAAC players I know often lose badly :P I really like your Contemptor builds. I also like conversion beamers. The only problem I see with heavy conversion beamer is the fact you have to remain stationary in order to fire it. Maybe if we can take the dual beamer configuration if could be amazing, even though you may have a limited line of sight. I was thinking of taking standard dreads too. I'm a sort of fan of them ;). I'm very interested in a dread heavy army list (both contemptors and normal): I suppose it can be a nasty army to fight against. Destroying a single normal dread is not that difficult but when you start to field dreads talons things should change... or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268152-best-weapons-for-contemptor/#findComment-3267525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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