Shadowgam3r Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hi I just got into the hobby and decided on space wolves. I have the codex and one squad of grey Hunters. My question is it seems like the best deal for me is to get the dark vengeance set for the rule book and such. I've seen online where someone modified the da librarian into a rune priest. My question is how hard would it be to turn the termies into space wolves termies and the tac squad into another squad of grey Hunters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 By "one squad of grey hunters" do you mean one unassembled box of Grey Hunters? If so, then it will be very easy to do what you want - one box has enough "wolfy" extras to make several packs. If not, then buy yourself another Grey Hunters pack box and you should have plenty of bits to convert everything in the DV box set plus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Imo, your money would be better served buying the mini rulebook from eBay or a bits webstore, and use the cash left over from what would have gone into the DV box to buy grey hunters or devastators or something less extreme to modify (or ideally the SW battleforce box) . While the models are nice, they're superfluous to building an army - you don't need the chaos models and likely already have the dice and measuring tape needed to play, sans the deviation dice which most all other 40k players have. If you're still keen on getting the DV box, just scrape off any swords with wings (mostly on the shoulderpads) and like dswanick suggested, use the excess SW bits to wolf them up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hrrm... The Captain's robe is too Dark Angels-Esque- Even if you file off the dark angels iconography from his armor, he's never going to look like a Wolf lord (And his equipment is all wrong for that anyway). With the librarian... You'll have to cut out the head, file off the Dark Angels bits (although the robe works better for the more intellectually minded Rune Priest), and assuming the next FAQ irons out that yes, Runic Weapons use force weapon types, Runic Axes and Runic Staves are much preferred to Runic Swords. The Terminators aren't going to work as Wolf Guard terminators at all- even if you remove the dark angels iconography and replace it with Space Wolves bits, their loadout is horrible for wolf Guard terminators. As for the tactical squad, that'll be easier. You'll need to file off the shoulder pad iconography, but that's the only extra bits that don't work for Space Wolves. That plasmacannon guy will need to become the first member of your Long Fangs pack, and the sergeant will need the standard on his backpack chopped off and a head replacement, plus, if you're not using him as a wolf guard pack leader (He's not really well kitted out for that, honestly- Wolf Guard Pack leaders are generally power axe+Combi-weapon matching their squad's weapon if they're in a rhino, or TDA with Power axe and Combi-weapon or storm bolter if they're in a drop pod or on foot). I'd reccomend cutting off the plasma pistol and replacing it with a boltgun- Grey Hunters use their boltguns one handed anyway. Now, the Ravenwing Bikers. The plasmagun really, really ought to be a flamer, and that bolt pistol ought to be another chainsword. And you of course need to replace the bare head with a space wolves one, and the wing iconography has to go. And they're going to need a Wolf guard Biker or Wolf Priest to lead them (Grey Hunters can, if points are really, really tight, go without their Pack leader, although you'll be groaning every time they roll a 9 on a morale check, and you lose challenge potential. For Blood Claw variants, though, a character leading them is mandatory unless you want them to try to krak grenade a land raider). So, you can certainly get use out of most of the Librarian, Tactical Squad, and Ravenwing Bikers (the Terminators aren't loaded outright, and the Captain is all wrong for a Wolf Lord), but it's going to take a fair bit of conversion work. The chaos models are a lost cause, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hrrm.../snip And that doesn't even mention the money wasted on the chaos models. Just hope you have a buddy or LGS to pawn them off to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way1and Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ebay is your friend. I got my little 5th Ed. rulebook off Ebay for 20 bucks and bought an old SW army for about $125 with shipping. A little Simple Green to strip a horrendous paint job, some $2 bottles of paint from Wal*Mart, an initial purchase of one Space Wolf box, Bob's yer uncle and hey! Presto! I had a viable, good looking force and all the accoutrements for under $200. Now if I could just win a few games... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowgam3r Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Yeah i was worried about the gear the most like you said esp the termies. I'm thinking I'll just get the battle forge or pick up another spaxe wolves pack and a razorback. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Oh, and welcome to the Fang. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaraion Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Greetings!! I completely agree your money is better spent elsewhere, and ebay is your friend. That said when you get some time that librarian is pretty sweet. Here is mine although not yet finished (and I suck at painting)... http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8215/8295527659_a97b95b4cb_m.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8362/8295527443_a5c7f0291b_m.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Greetings!! I completely agree your money is better spent elsewhere, and ebay is your friend. That said when you get some time that librarian is pretty sweet. Here is mine although not yet finished (and I suck at painting)... http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8215/8295527659_a97b95b4cb_m.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8362/8295527443_a5c7f0291b_m.jpg Nice conversion. Needs a beard, but otherwise, looks good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helosv Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hello, or you have to use all the dark vengeance set and build a 13 th company... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The 13 company is running on old suits of power armor and stuff scavenged from Chaos (not that there's a ton of difference). Even if they had had robes at one time, they'd long ago have been torn to pieces, and they have little to no Mk-7 armor, so the Dark Angels models would be all wrong for them. And as to converting the chaos models, the chaos models are far too chaosy- You'd be looking at an awful lot of filing to get those looking like the proper 13th company models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268220-modifying-question/#findComment-3267583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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