Kastor Krieg Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Some codices have bits that were not FAQ'd and are a bit silly in 6ed environment. Say, a DA player comes up and tells me his LCs totally ignore armour saves and re-roll all failed To Wound rolls. Now, I went and looked (damn, I play DA myself, but never found this before) and it actually says that. I went and looked into the 1.1 DA FAQ. No mention of a change. Other FAQs in similar situation, for example my 1.1 BT FAQ, refer the player to the BRB where a change to equipment properties was made. No change was made to DA LCs at all. Now, tournaments aside, do I have any grounds to say "No" to such a player? Of course, I can refuse playing, but is there anything actually forcing him to use the BRB LCs instead of the Codex ones ("Codex trumps BRB" comes to mind)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nope! The BRB says that certains codexes use different rules from those presented in the BRB, in which case you'd use those rules, even though the name of the item is the same. That's just the way it goes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 LC? what is that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Lightning Claw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Lightning Claw. Derp lol, was thinking lascannon and was confused Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nope! The BRB says that certains codexes use different rules from those presented in the BRB, in which case you'd use those rules, even though the name of the item is the same. That's just the way it goes! OK, so per RAW, for about three weeks more, the DA LCs have "ignore armor saves" and "re-roll To Wound"? oO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nope! The BRB says that certains codexes use different rules from those presented in the BRB, in which case you'd use those rules, even though the name of the item is the same. That's just the way it goes! OK, so per RAW, for about three weeks more, the DA LCs have "ignore armor saves" and "re-roll To Wound"? oO Correct, on a minor bright side - they don't get the +1A for two specialist weapons if paired with a Power Fist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 When you consider the point cost and limitations of a Deathwing sqaud, I think it is working as intended. After all, 5 GK termies with force weapons and psyker abilities cost significantly less. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Correct, on a minor bright side - they don't get the +1A for two specialist weapons if paired with a Power Fist. Why, exactly? You need another Specialist weapon to get the bonus, not two SWs of the same kind? Where does it say otherwise? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Correct, on a minor bright side - they don't get the +1A for two specialist weapons if paired with a Power Fist. Why, exactly? You need another Specialist weapon to get the bonus, not two SWs of the same kind? Where does it say otherwise? BRB, Pg.42. Or do you mean - "Why don't the DA Lightning Claws get +1A when paired with another Specialist Weapon (such as a Power Fist)?", in which case it says so in the C:DA Lightning Claw entry right after saying that it ignores Armour Saves and re-rolls all failed To-Wound rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah, so p42 confirms - two Specialist weapons, of any kind. Only DA have a restriction. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3270529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 So who really cares with the new codex ready to release now? It's a moot point . G :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3271759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 So who really cares with the new codex ready to release now? It's a moot point . G :) Why reply then? I care because I am playing in a small league in my FLGS in January. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3271864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axagoras Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 So who really cares with the new codex ready to release now? It's a moot point . G :) Why reply then? I care because I am playing in a small league in my FLGS in January. And mid January the new codex will be out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3271971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Which will TOTALLY allow me to change my rules and roster with which I will have started playing on January 1st, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3271993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 The question stands on its own merits, so everyone needs to calm down. Now, is there anything else to discuss about DA rules, as they stand now, particularly their CC weapons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3272004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Which will TOTALLY allow me to change my rules and roster with which I will have started playing on January 1st, right?If you want to get technical, then yes, but rather it'd me more "forced" than "allowed". Otherwise, you'd be playing with an illegal army, and I'm sure the others won't appreciate it. ;) Discussing it with your organizer is the best option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3272310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'd let you use the new codex. Hopefully the organizer will let you do so. Good luck. ;) G :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268480-codex-old-edition-artifacts-what-to-do-with-them/#findComment-3272334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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