Count the7 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have been looking around for insperation for conversion ideas for a model of sigismund for the seige of terra. I then kicked my self beacuse GW allready does the BT Emperors Champion. technicaly this model in its articifer Plate and with Black Sword should be perfect (with the Addition of a Bording shield in his Left hand) is there any general concensess out there as to if the BT fig is apropriate? also i have been adding heraldry to Sigismunds IF veterans, mainly Rt pauldron Black swords or black/white maltase crosses on white/black to give them that Templar feel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have the original Emperor's Champion model, when the Armageddon campaign was on but the new one should be ok, although I think they may release a dedicated Sigismund model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3271815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I would like to see him in his Imperial Fist garb with his personal heraldry(bt colors). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3271858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 In the original lore, Sigismund had been a regular battle brother that had been honoured due to his outstanding fighting skills. His armour was repainted for the Battle for the Imperial Palace, and during that battle he was roaming the battlefield looking for opponents to duel. He was not in a command position, and to this day the Emperor's Champion is not a position of command among the Black Templars, but instead based on the Champion's fighting skill. This lore was altered for the Horus Heresy series, and Sigismund is now the First Captain of the Imperial Fists Legion (even though the Emperor's Champion would henceforth never again be considered a commanding rank). The first (Great?) Company is now apparently also referred to as "the Templars", which kind of makes it seem as though the Imperial Fists Legion would later be divided based on their previous Company organisation (i.e. the entire first Great Company becomes the Black Templars Chapter), and not based on the attitude of the individual marine (the zealous become the Black Templars, the calmer ones become the Crimson Fists, etc.). Either way, according to the older lore, black armour was not Sigismund's personal heraldic colour. It was a repaint for the specific purpose of his new title as the Emperor's Champion, to show that he was no longer a normal member of the Legion, but was honoured with a more spiritual task, similar to the Chaplains. I am not sure this bit was changed in the Horus Heresy series, so prior to the siege he would have worn the usual Imperial Fists colours. Or are Sigismund and/or the "Templars" at any point already described as wearing black armour elements or the cross? Using the official Emperor's Champion model for your Sigismund should be fine. He may even have used different weapons or a shield, though I think the original story described him only as wielding a sword, and that is of course also the common depiction of any Emperor's Champion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3271881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezeriel Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'm going to use the legion champion from FW and convert a couple things. My buddy is the biggest BT fanboy and I figure painting that model up as Sigismund for his birthday would probably be the best gift ever. My problem is figuring out how to paint him, can't get a detailed description of his armor during the siege. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3271914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 You could use Helbrect with the head dremel'd out for a knightly Black Templar helm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3271940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 I was going to paint him black with chiped armour showing the yellow underneath. a standard IF legion Left Pauldron. and the adition of a large Shield (Bretonian) to his left arm. As the army is going to be for the seige of terra im using a Prator with Paragon Blade and Boarding Shield to reprisent him. The "Templar" Veterans are all in IF yellow but with black and white Company/squad heraldry on their Right Pauldrons. Tactical Marines will be painted in standered IF colours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3272081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think it is briefly mentioned what he looks like in one of the novels, he's known as the Black Knight in the gladiator pits of the World Eaters, so I think he could of already been wearing black armour by the time of the siege. The way I painted mine originally before I decided to strip it was to paint him black but his tabard yellow, one shoulder pad was yellow and the other with the templar cross was white with the cross in black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3272283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 I love the idea of the model reflecting narative, so the adition of abit of artistic licensing giving depth to the Character. so for instance Sigismund showing a few Templar symbols mixed in with the IF iconography, or like with my Loyalist Death Guard the Red Right arms. I dont Belive that the Templars came from just the first company. By the time the Legion got through Phall, Mars, the Seige of Terra and the Iron Cage the Templars, Crimson fists And IF would have been drawn from hundreds of Ad Hoc sub units. In my Seige of Terra force i want to reflect this in mixed Squad and Company markings and Armour types allong with personal heraldry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268626-sigismund/#findComment-3272857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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