Loki-LaughingDeath Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Wouldn't you know that we all overlooked the venerable rule? Silly us! So the 5 up invulnerable save is nice but the venerable ruling allows us to have the other player re-roll any penetrating hits since glances don't do didly now adays. I think that I am good with one through 4. Vehicle Destroyed and Vehicle Exploding, go ahead and reroll that for me if you would be so kind. Yeah that is also true that in todays games that are VP/objective dependent he gives them up if he dies and he will tie down a unit, he is still fun to build an army round and play! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3276763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 There is no destroyed anymore, merely explosions. And the problem isnt his survivability to penetrating hits like in the old days, no- its that three glancing hits will kill him dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3276832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 well on that field he's not much better than a thunderlord with saga of the bear, 3 high strength AP2 wounds will kill your lord just as well (should you fail your invulnerable save (granted its a 3+ VS 5+ but still, actually glancing bjorn is still one heck of a task!especially since he can challenge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 ...especially since he can challenge tbh I think the best part about him being able to challenge is that people won't want to lose their character to him - thus are likely to opt out and you can simply plow into the rest of the unit - he'll be a gun magnet but that's not such a problem... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 He also hits on 3s period... He doesn't hit on 3s period. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 He also hits on 3s period... He doesn't hit on 3s period. Valerian Wolf Tooth Necklace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Wolf Tooth Necklace? Okay then anything with a Weapon Skill he hits on threes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Wolf Tooth Necklace? Okay then anything with a Weapon Skill he hits on threes. If only he had a Wolf Tooth Necklace... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Too much ale....and I got so used to seeing all the special characters had one I just read that he did and ignored that it was a tail. Makes no sense that he is the ONLY special character to NOT have one..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loketh Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 For smaller points values, he can be a risky investment. But Apoc.... that's a sight to see. In the last game I played, he trashed five deff dreds without taking any damage. Truly an epic choice of characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 While considered a poor choice by the interweb i did note that the SW list the that won the Most 5th ed USGT Wins was built around bjorn. If you look up Reece Robbins on Blood of kittens he has his list there and explains how it worked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaraion Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 While considered a poor choice by the interweb i did note that the SW list the that won the Most 5th ed USGT Wins was built around bjorn. If you look up Reece Robbins on Blood of kittens he has his list there and explains how it worked. That is an interesting article. Here is the link w/ army list if anyone is interested... http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/09/27/...-waaagh-report/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3277730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hendrik--thanks for your opinion. I didn't start this thread but I have been following it & I've always been one to run more fluffy or all comers style lists so some of what you said in your comparisons made me look at things differently. I personnally love Bjorn but have a hard time lately justifying him, especially about his progress across the board. It made me think about the rest of my army & its general purpose. I may try utilizing Bjorn a little differently going forward. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3278419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 well to be honest i've actually never fielded bjorn myself, but tried to look at him in a very broad tactical comparison with the thunderlord, our only standard HQ coming into the same point range as him since people complained about his pointcost, something i too did myself to be honest. However as i was writing the comparison bjorn grew on me, and his point cost became to make sense. If wielded by a potent general, and if it has a supporting list to go along with him, a bjorn-list seems like a very potent build that can mess up a whole lot of other lists, such as alpha strike imperial guard lists, etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3278635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Ok I'm gong to field bjorn now just to see for myself how he fares in a Mech oriented list. I will be surprised if he lives more than a couple turns though..he's just too juicy a target especially for flyers but hunter melta/plasma squads too. On a related note I wish he at least had BS 6 to twin link his asscan vs flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3279090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 On a related note I wish he at least had BS 6 Bjorn does have BS6 but..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3279124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Does he really.. I'm at work no dex but that actually does quite a bit for his appeal. I've always wanted a tlac dread and that's pretty close..especially vs flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3279257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 certainly keep us updated upon how he preformed! After writing that long comparison i want to try him out myself, not sure it's a good idea though since he'll be facing either necrons or bloodangels! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3279569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I don't know about BA but I played Bjorn once in the early summer against Necrons & All I can says is shield him with Rhinos & get into CC early. I think I was lucky but he did manage to kill 3 squads of Warriors & 2 of their barge transport thingies. But getting caught in the open by several of anything Necron definitly sucks for Bjorn. Was glanced to Death. Good Luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268664-bjorn-the-fell-handed-is-he-good/page/2/#findComment-3279596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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