AekoldHelbrass Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So, how you, fellow sinners, are fielding Emperor's Children warbands? I'd like to use some sonic blasters and blastmasters, but that will make rhino-rush impossible. And making full standing list is somehow boring. What are you doing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 syren spam lists . DP mace 3lvl psyker , lord bike +bikers , 5man NM msu with syren . csm with 2 plasm . nm to csm ratio 2:1 , oblits in hvy slots 2 drakes . 2k list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 syren spam lists . DP mace 3lvl psyker , lord bike +bikers , 5man NM msu with syren . csm with 2 plasm . nm to csm ratio 2:1 , oblits in hvy slots 2 drakes . 2k list. Thanx Jeske. NM champion is naked with siren only, or claw or power sword? And all footslogging, without rhinos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteForPedro Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 My 1500 list is below. It could use some fine tweaking (it's taking me a while to work out the right troop ratio/ overspending on Noise Marines) but it's a good starting point. It's a foot list with lots of dakka and MeQ killing template fun. The bikes are a bit of a deathstar-light though usually turbo boost up a flank turn one to take some heat off the Noise Marines who have to get into position. HQ Lord on Bike, MoS, Burning Brand of Skalathrax, Lightning Claw, Melta Bombs, 4+ invul. Sorceror, MoS, Level 1 (unsure on this - it's points that could probably be spent better but giving it a try for now) Troops 10 Noise Marines, Sonic Blasters, Blastmaster, IoE, Lightning Claw for the AC 10 Noise Marines, Sonic Blasters, Blastmaster, IoE, Lightning Claw for the AC 10 Cultists w/ Autoguns and Flamer (still working out the best fit for this, might drop the Autoguns) Fast Attack 5 Bikers, 2 Melta Guns, IoE, VotlW, Lightning Claw for the AC Heldrake w/ Baleflamer Heavy Support 5 Havocs w/ 4 Autocannons 1 Oblit w/ MoN 1 Oblit w/ MoN I understand if you'd prefer to drop the MoN from the Oblits for fluff reasons, it's too tasty for me to get rid of though. Also there is a good arguement for running the Oblits in a squad rather than seperately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 syren spam lists . DP mace 3lvl psyker , lord bike +bikers , 5man NM msu with syren . csm with 2 plasm . nm to csm ratio 2:1 , oblits in hvy slots 2 drakes . 2k list. Are sirens THAT good? :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoteForPedro Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 syren spam lists . DP mace 3lvl psyker , lord bike +bikers , 5man NM msu with syren . csm with 2 plasm . nm to csm ratio 2:1 , oblits in hvy slots 2 drakes . 2k list. Are sirens THAT good? :o In a heavy infantry/ MEq meta they are brutal though they do change how you run Noise Marines. You probably won't be taking any other Sonic Weapons, instead it's MSU Noise Marine units in Rhinos. Of course, you're in trouble if you run into Mech Guard without sufficient ways to pop the Chimeras but then it is very very tricky to come up with a good all comers list in 6th! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 syren spam lists . DP mace 3lvl psyker , lord bike +bikers , 5man NM msu with syren . csm with 2 plasm . nm to csm ratio 2:1 , oblits in hvy slots 2 drakes . 2k list. Are sirens THAT good? :D depands what you class as good, but syren builds are better then trying to run salvo sonic blasters. champions are power weapon[sword] armed , unless I play 1850 then champs naked . Of course, you're in trouble if you run into Mech Guard without sufficient ways to pop the Chimeras but then it is very very tricky to come up with a good all comers list in 6th! if you run in to that with a sonic based army your dead too. not much of a difference . the build plays as if there was no 6th ed , as if flyers didnt exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 champions are power weapon[sword] armed , unless I play 1850 then champs naked . And what about transport? Rhinos or footslogging? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 rhinos. 5 man nm units dont live long enough without rhinos to use their syren . Sometimes they dont live long enough with rhinos. but being sub optimal comes with picking something else then non nurgle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 champions are power weapon[sword] armed , unless I play 1850 then champs naked . Power Swords why not Lightning Claws? Same S and AP, same number of attacks, same cost but with shred! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3275996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargame insomniac Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 champions are power weapon[sword] armed , unless I play 1850 then champs naked . Power Swords why not Lightning Claws? Same S and AP, same number of attacks, same cost but with shred! Power Swords and bolt pistol gives +1 Attack. Lightning Claw is a Specialist Weapon. You only get +1 attack if paired with another Specialist Weapon. So trade off between shred and +1 attack. For Slaanesh marked CSM's (which can have BP&CCW) I would go for Power Sword. For Noise Marines (which start with boltgun & BP) I would go for Combi-Bolter and Lightning Claw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3276099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Power Swords why not Lightning Claws? Same S and AP, same number of attacks, same cost but with shred! I dont have the points to run LC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3276341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 champions are power weapon[sword] armed , unless I play 1850 then champs naked . Power Swords why not Lightning Claws? Same S and AP, same number of attacks, same cost but with shred! Power Swords and bolt pistol gives +1 Attack. Yes I know. But I was talking about NM Champs who can't have a Bolt Pistol AND a Power Sword. The only way for them to have a Power Sword and a pistol of any kind is buying a Plasma Pistol for them (which is just... no). So why not give them Lightning Claws instead? They are better and COST THE SAME. Power Swords why not Lightning Claws? Same S and AP, same number of attacks, same cost but with shred! I dont have the points to run LC. But I thought you said that you gave your NM champs Power Swords? They have the same cost now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3276625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AekoldHelbrass Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 Ok, I'm back with stupid questions... Is there a way to make Noise Marines work as "stand and shoot" army, in MEQ-heavy environment? Just to know is there any sense in gluing lots of sonic blasters and blastmasters... I thought that while they're still ignoring cover - I could use cultists as operation human shield, so enemy will have to charge them first, and I'll have 1 more full shooting round... And maybe use terminators to deny enemy his objectives? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3277019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Warrior w/ Servo Arm Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Ok, I'm back with stupid questions... Is there a way to make Noise Marines work as "stand and shoot" army, in MEQ-heavy environment? Just to know is there any sense in gluing lots of sonic blasters and blastmasters... I thought that while they're still ignoring cover - I could use cultists as operation human shield, so enemy will have to charge them first, and I'll have 1 more full shooting round... And maybe use terminators to deny enemy his objectives? I have seen 30 of them with rhinos as moving cover do really well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268876-emperors-children-tactics/#findComment-3277475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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