ianj253 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 With the release of DA right around the corner I'm expecting to see a lot more dark angels on the table top. Have you guys thought about how you will change your list to ready yourself for them? Will you take them as allies? For my tournament list I know I'll be including a plasma cannon on my raven and might be including some combi-plasma sternguards as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Its kinda early to tell, without having seen the rules for them. I'm excited though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Reaver Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 From what the white dwarf battle report entailed, I will definitely be allying with either the raven wing or death wing units. Angels of Death codex redux! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I have a lot of terminators, so I'll probably be using either allies or the full DA list to get to field more of them. A lot of the new models will be finding their way into my army as conversions too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Last time I checked, we don't ally with traitors...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Angel Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 A DA divination librarian with 30 tacticals is around 480-500 pts a good ally in for BA. Being able to Deathwing Assault 1st or 2nd turn reliably is going to play well with Sanguinary Guard. All 2+ BA/DA lists look viable. I get my codex in another 2-4 hours and will build a few Dark Blood lists . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mapple Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 My brother has like 3500pts of really nicely painted DA models that are the Angels of Absolution (halved green/bone) I think (2 Baneblades too... some people have all the monies). I will be running some of his more tactical Deathwing and such with Belial as scoring allies probably. I've somehow gotten 3 pewter Terminator chaplains over the years in swaps and big bitz boxes. Maybe I'll do some of my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I plan to stay out of the 24 inch plasma death that will be headed my way. But like AGPO stated, I might be inclined to start a Black, and Red angel ally list. I'll grab a couple of those Dark Talons to use in conjuction to my Storm Ravens, and Land Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsolom Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I am planning to add some Ravenwing allies to my DC list... probably not the most effective list but i'm more into the rule of cool school these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickrock Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 As far as "What we will do about them", since I won't be home until long after the FotM effect has worn off I won't have to worry about it. But if I was, I would have to say Plasma. Lots of plasma. You all bashed me taking Plasma Cannons on my Tacticals. Well, baby! Its gonna pay off with all the frikin' Terminators! Another way for me to address this is the x4 Plasma Honor Guard. Now, you're gonna say "But Kickrock, just take Combi-Plasma! It'll cost less and you can take more!" I agree with this statement 100%! If this was a scuicide squad who's goal is to drop in and take out a big target turn 1 then I would agree with the Combi-Melta. But each of those Combi-Plasma will only get 1 shot before they turn into AT BEST AP3 weapons. Sure, Terminators die to weight of fire, but they die to consistant AP2 shooting faster. I havn't been using my Vidicators. Since 5th they've kinda taken a back seat. My area took a long time to adjust to 6th edition. If I get back home and everyone has Deathwing and Ravenwing on the board you'd better beleive that I'm dropping those AP2 S10 LBlasts on kids heads. As for taking them as Allies, its too early for me to say. I'm going to get the PDF and the White Dwarf and look over the units. I play more of an "Alpha Strike" Drop Pod style lists that Deathwing could accomidate and compliment wonderfully. The two reason that I would avoid this (right now) is becuase right now Space Wolves are filling that nitch and they're so far the best models I've painted to date... I wanna show them off! Second, I have a problem when painting White or Cream colors. A shoulder pad or a helmet is one thing but an entire model?! I would avoid using them based on that fact alone! It doesn't mean that I won't address this later, if I never try to paint it I won't learn to paint it. But it definatly won't be a project I'll attempt this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I am planning to add some Ravenwing allies to my DC list... probably not the most effective list but i'm more into the rule of cool school these days you maybe suprised what RW has in the DA dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I took a glance at the WD batrep and took it with a grain of salt due to the ussual "new army wins by awesome means lolz!" bit that always seems to creep into them <_< all those ravenwing bikes seem to be equipped with twin linked plasmaguns though which makes them pretty terrifying in my book As far as I can tell though theyre not getting any meaningfull assault units outside of their pimped up terminators so the only real thing that we need to adjust to are the bikers. Those terminators hudling together for T5 are brilliant since I generally always have a Vindicator! Yes, please all stand shoulder to shoulder, you will be well protected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't mind them really. The Auspex is quite nasty when applied with correct timing, and the abomination of a speeder shrouding everything in 6" or 12" not sure right now, can be annoying. Other than that, their flyers are no match for the might of the stormraven, their terminators are pretty expensive, especially the command squad versions, and twin-linked plasma guns on bikers are good, but nothing to be afraid about. Black Knights command squads are 3 members, the others are up to 10(which is probably the reason most people will play the latter), however expensive in points. I think they've got a pretty good codex, and looking through the rules, a pretty fluffy one on top of that. Nice for them, I say! Not sure on all that warp-based stuff they got though, sounds pretty...you know, chaos-y. Here's hoping that our Captains will finally get access to artificer armour like their Company Masters if our codex hits. I like the style of the new 6th edition dexes, pretty straight-forward, and they actually got their own armoury back where you can choose gear instead of listing it all under the unit entry of a character. Speaking of Characters, all rules are looking good, nothing really abusive and quite close to the fluff. Like that. Snorri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainbow Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Kicking it old-skool with the Angels of Death! Unfortunately for us I think said Angels of Death might be better played with DA as the primary and BA as the secondary :( - the DA have some better options and pricing, especially in the troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Holy *** I want to ally that ravenwing grenade launcher... -1 TOUGHNESS on the unit hit? ASM will wreak havoc on everything you prep with that baby! Add some cheap tacticals as scoring troops and a ridiculously cheap librarian (naked costs 65 points, mastery lvl 2 costs the same as our naked guy, thank you very much...), and that might be very nasty indeed. Not impressed at all by their flyers though, they look cool but not something to worry about too much. Darkshroud Landspeeder gives everything shrouded in 6'', means 3+ jink save bikers (since they're skilled riders), quite a nasty combo but I don't think it's overpowered. Some bikers have twin-linked plasmaguns with 1 shot and 18'' range, it's sort of a tradeoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 They pay heavily for all their cool toys. I'll stick with my BA/SW alliance thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrenael Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I do like the BA/SW alliance, but I am in favor of the new flyer. It does have more of a aerodynamic feel and I can not wait to see it painted red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 DA flyers are ok when you ally in SW . statis droping I means jaws starts killing stuff which normaly would be rather safe . -3I on an sm character ,hurts a lot. and the range of jaws means it also takes some normal meq with it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainbow Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 So I've heard that you can only field the Deathwing army with DA as the primary detachment. Is that true? If so I think it's probably good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 That is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snejk Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Since I just play friendly games I'm very unlikely to meet them on the game board. And as someone said earlier - Don't ally with traitors. But the DW Terminators have some converting potential, I have to give them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Angel Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 With the release of DA right around the corner I'm expecting to see a lot more dark angels on the table top. Have you guys thought about how you will change your list to ready yourself for them? Will you take them as allies? For my tournament list I know I'll be including a plasma cannon on my raven and might be including some combi-plasma sternguards as well. I like the idea of the Dark Talon shooting its rift cannon and dropping stasis bombs on things I want to kill in combat, that may be a little expensive. Another option is taking Ravenwing knights to get my hands on their grenade launcher which does something similar dropping weapon skill and initiative. These items that drop initiative and weapon skill sound like a good buff for even plain assault squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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