Grotsmasha Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Am I correct in thinking any of the four Legions in HH:Betrayal are viable options for the 3 marines on Angrons base? I ask because White is my nemesis, and would rather do Emperors Children or maybe try Sons of Horus. Also, now that I think of it, did Angron also partake in the slaughter of the Dropsite Massacre? Would that mean that Raven Guard, Salamanders, Iron Hands are all also fair game? Thanks for your help, and feel free to make suggestions for combinations you'd like to see. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Could have Ultramarines as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 To the best of my knowledge, there weren't any Ultramarines at either Isstvans Purge/Massacre? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 To the best of my knowledge, there weren't any Ultramarines at either Isstvans Purge/Massacre? But in Betrayer he fights them alongside Lorgar... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Haven't had the chance to read Betrayer, it that scene set at either Istvaan III or V? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Haven't had the chance to read Betrayer, it that scene set at either Istvaan III or V? Neither, it's in Ultra-space I think(haven't read it either)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonZahn Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Betrayal =/= Betrayer One is a novel, the other is the giant tome of HH knowledge that kicks off the series discussed here in this subforum. So, to Grot... all 4 Legions at Istvaan III had forces in the first wave making any of them open to your diorama choice if you want to base it around that. Of course the standard caveat of "it's your model, paint it how you want", applies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yeah if you want to focus solely on Istvaan III, then it'll be Sons of Horus, World Eaters, Emperor's Children and Death Guard. Additionally if you want to include Istvaan V you could have Raven Guard, Salamanders, Iron Hands as well as Alpha Legion, Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Night Lords as they could of easily got in his way and Angron doesn't really discriminate on who he kills when the nails burn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Betrayal =/= Betrayer One is a novel, the other is the giant tome of HH knowledge that kicks off the series discussed here in this subforum. So, to Grot... all 4 Legions at Istvaan III had forces in the first wave making any of them open to your diorama choice if you want to base it around that. Of course the standard caveat of "it's your model, paint it how you want", applies. I mean Betrayer, by ADB... Angron fights at these places against the listed opponents: Istvaan III, Sons of Horus, World Eaters, Death Guard, Emperor's Children Istvaan V, Salamanders, Raven Guard, Iron Hands(well, technically also Night Lords, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion and Iron Warriors if they happened to get in his way) Ultramar, Ultramarines (in Betrayer) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Cheers for all of the quick responses guys, how does everyone feel about having a Iron Warrior under-foot, an Emperors Children falling forward and a Salamander falling backwards? I know, I know,my model, do as I please, but I would really like to hear your thoughts and opinions. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3279838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think it might be a bit of a stretch to have Marines from four Legions present at one specific point in the battle. Istvaan V was a massive deployment of seven Legions. That kind of manpower takes up a lot of space, and to ensure command cohesion, each Legion would have been assigned an area of responsibility most likely, and then fought as a whole. But what you're describing will probably look fairly cool, and that's really all that counts. Though do you mean Iron Hands, or Iron Warriors? Might be cooler with an Iron Warrior, since they were nominally on the same side (not that silly concepts like "sides" really matter much to Angron). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3280793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 In my opinion you can set the diorama in any HH battle you want .... that means you can paint the dead SM in any Legion color you like... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3280833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith IV Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 He may have been on the same planet, but that doesn't mean he would have come into contact with all the legions present. At Isstvan III he was mainly involved in killing the World Eaters, they were his target and other legions would be if they happened to be in the same place or after he was finished. On Isstvan V, he would be unikely to come accross the Iron Hands as they were present in much lower numbers and very much focussed on the Emperor's Children. It's specifically noted in Raven's Flight that Angron was heavily involved with the Raven Guard, hunting down Corax and the survivors after the initial massacre. Personally, I did mine as Salamanders because I use Salamanders as all dead marine parts on my World Eaters - I have some of several different Legions and paried them all up for trophies/corpses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3281814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 In my opinion you can set the diorama in any HH battle you want .... that means you can paint the dead SM in any Legion color you like... Not that easily. Right after Istvaan V Angron and Lorgar were deployed in Ultramar. And... Angron becomes a Daemon Prince after that However, in Betrayal it is mentioned that the World Eaters had a brief "encounter" with Leman Russ and his sons during the Great Crusade. That means you do still have the option to do a base filled with dead Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3281867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr Shepard Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 In my opinion you can set the diorama in any HH battle you want .... that means you can paint the dead SM in any Legion color you like... Not that easily. Right after Istvaan V Angron and Lorgar were deployed in Ultramar. And... Angron becomes a Daemon Prince after that However, in Betrayal it is mentioned that the World Eaters had a brief "encounter" with Leman Russ and his sons during the Great Crusade. That means you do still have the option to do a base filled with dead Space Wolves. That just proves he can paint the dead marine with the colors of other Legions. If you consider Istvaan III, Istvaan V, Ultramar you already have a good number of options... not to mention the alternative: since it's your mini you can set the scene in an alternate universe (like the various alternate heresies here on B&C) Even though you want to stay "close to official fluff" those three engagements gives you a good number of options. Just my opinion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3284530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Was Angron using Gorefather and Gorechild during his encounter with Russ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3285687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I think it would be really cool if you did Isstvan V but for the armor do a bunch of different legion colors on the loyalists who had to replace pieces of it in the field. If you could pull that off and not go overboard on color combinations (gaaah no rainbow marines! XD) it would look pretty sweet and a little fluffy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3285695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Was Angron using Gorefather and Gorechild during his encounter with Russ? I don't remember if it was specifically mentioned, but that doesn't have to stop you from including them in there! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269258-angrons-diorama-base/#findComment-3285733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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