Wolf Guard box rant!

[irwit]

Hi all

Now I've been in here a while talking up how much I rate WGTDA with just power weapon and SB. 33 pts imo is a steal! However I am now finding out why so few people use this, the bloody box contains enough combinations for a total of 1 power weapon armed WG!!??

I know this is ranting but seriously, why in the WG box do you get 4 sets of wolf claws and 3 sets of TH SS, both of which you can already have an abundance of in the existing TDA boxset. However when it comes to the WG TDA standard loadout, power weapon and Storm Bolter, you only get 1 possible combination ??? And don't get me started on the lack of CML! lol.

Anyway, so I turn to teh BnC community to give me some ideas on how I can make some more power weapon Storm bolter combinations out of my WG box ? Any ideas at all are welcome

Thanks for reading my rant, lol

[Bulldogging]

Well the axe is also a power weapon, I don't think anything actually forces you to use it as a frost axe...besides frost axes don't exist anymore since they are the same price as powerfists but are worse.

 

So you can make 2. It's really frustrating I agree. I'm also angry they didn't put a cyclone in it.

[irwit]

Its actually the axe I am after, but it is right handed so you only get one left handed storm bolter, meaning you can only make one power weapon armed wolf guard.

 

I actually forgot the whole, not one single combi weapon part of this rant either, lol.

 

I'm looking at forgeworld but I don't think HH and 40K styles really fit together too well in the same army. I was going to get some cataphractti TDA but £45 on top of the £28 I already wasted on this box set is getting expensive!

[spafe]

I know its not ideal, but if you have bought the basic pa wolf set, can you jsut hand/wep swap from there? just thinking out loud, Otherwise, I know your not sold on the fw termies, but they do jsut the wep hands I believe which might give you potential hand swaps too?

[Dam13n]

You do get 2 power swords per standard box of PA space wolves, not too challenging to do a weapon swap kit-bash.

You also get 2 Axes, while 2 handed, you can kit-bash the axe head onto a thunder hammer haft, that should give

you a relatively decent looking axe.

 

The other options include Grey Knight terminators as they have loads of swords, or the Chaos Terminators if you

want axes (admittedly, you'll probably want to do some filing off of the chaos details).

 

Combi-weapons are a problem for all armies. Unless you want to convert them yourself from bits, the only reliable

sources are the SM Commander box or Forge World. Of course, converting a Storm Bolter into a combi-bolter isn't

the most challenging conversion. A spare bolter and the special weapon of choice are all you need (as well as the

Storm Bolter) - just replace the barrels and ammo feed as appropriate.

 

Given how packed the sprues are, I can't see how they could add in anything else without removing stuff. Whilst I

wouldn't mind a few less wolf claw pairs, given that some people might want to field WG squad leaders with a CF and

Wolf Claw as challenge beasts, I can see the opposing view as well.

 

The absence of a cyclone is a proper pain, I'll give you. However I have seen some good conversions using the land

speeder typhoon launcher, the mounting for the radar dish from the vehicle accessory sprue and a spare ammo hopper

from an assault cannon.

 

IMHO there are much worse boxes out there than the SW Terminators. The Chaos Terminators for example, who are

best used as combi-weapon delivery systems yet you only get 1 combi-melta and 1 combi-flamer in the box, as well as

no lightning claws and no power swords, yet you get a single useless tentacle arm (why??).

 

Laterz...

[Long Fang]

Irritating indeed it is. I got a load of the standard ones from bits sites and a few extra wolf ones as well.

 

The box is a pain all round tho, if you want everyone armed the same. As you say not enough power weapons but also not enough wolf claws and not enough thunder hammer/ss ether.

 

I solved the problem partly with bits sites but mostly I have way more terminators than is healthy so have lots of bits :P

[irwit]

Ive look at the power axe in the Gh box but its way too feeble to be sitting on a WG in TDA.

 

Also PA hands on TDA dont really work, they are just a touch too small.

 

I think my main gripe is that army arms out side of PF or WC are right handed, the same as the storm bolter. So that's the issue. You cant use hammers and still use a storm bolter. I guess at least Chaos get 2 combis vs our zero.

 

I think my point more is, if you want 5 TDA with hammers and shields, or lightning claws, then there is already a box out there, so why repeat those parts on the WG sprue? The big thing about WG is they can have power weapons and combis, but these are not catered for.

 

I guess the flip side is the models are very nice so I guess I will have to turn them into more of a project than I was first expecting. Im thinking these would look pretty good as power axes and I'm hoping would be suitably large enough to work on a TDA,

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Infantry_of_the_Horus_Heresy/CATAPHRACTII_POWER_AXE_SET.html

 

 

Still £13.50 for 5 axes seems a bit steep :s

[helosv]

Hello,

search on ebay......

or go there:

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/index.php/space-marines-chapters-space-wolves-c-21_283_285

[greysquigg]

Bitzbox is great when they have stuff in-stock, ebay would be a better bet.

 

I find the WG boxes leave allot open to conversions and while it is a pain, I do quite like it.

 

Means you usually end up with a project on your hands instead of a quick build paint play.

 

 

I have found mixing and matching parts from all of the boxes leaves you with some fantastic results.

 

You can make quite a nice looking axe by using two of the axe heads from the PA box. And the Sword in the PA box just looks better that the TDA one IMO.

 

GS

[irwit]

but how do you get past the issue that all the arms you would use to put a home made axe on, are right handed, ie the hammers, and the shield arms have no hands at all. So you have no storm bolter to use ?

 

Thos ebits sites are a knightmare, they never have anything useful in stock, ie missle launchers, cyclones, and power weapons.

[greysquigg]

This is how skagen42 got around it.

I love the work that's gone into these guys to get a great looking pack.

Another Axeman joins the ranks .. This time to not have them all look too alike, its not a 2 handed pose..

http://i50.tinypic.com/wl2g4g.jpg

Dont have any more shoulder pads atm so cant make the last guy for the squad, I did order some more so hopefully I will get the unit completed soon

But Here is a pic of the 5 guys I have completed so far all together : 4 Wolf Guards and 1 Lone wolf, although he could be used as both a guard or a HQ if need be.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2djp388.jpg

Now I think I'll try and wrap my head around either some Skyclaws or Swiftclaws - if anyone have some input on how to do either in a cool and "pre-heresy-kinda-way"

Especially if it involves wolf pelts/furs/cloaks or whatnot.. please leave a note

Cheers for all the comments, critisicm is as allways welcome

~Skagen42

GS

[Squark]

The main issue is the thunderhammers use the same hand as most of the storm bolters do.

 

What I did is some hand swapping from the power armored box, which has left handed storm bolters and spare axe heads you can use to make the thunder hammers into power axes, and left handed swords to go with the right handed storm bolters- I can post a picture later today if you'd like. If you want the special weapons guy to have a heavy flamer or assault cannon (or are magnetizing him to be whatever you want) and a power axe, that's a tad trickier- What I'm doing is using one of the storm shield arms and a left handed axe from the chaos warriors box (Which you might well want for some character conversions anyway).

 

Main issue is you're using the storm shield arms for this, and I think I'd still be one short if I hadn't gotten one of my swords from a guy with a leftover power sword from the tactical terminators box.

[skeletoro]

Yeah, what I did was buy extra axes from ebay (thunderwolf and sanguinary guard) and then do weapon swaps - mostly using the thunder hammer arms because they're more epic looking.

[Anaraion]

I have also found Chaos Lord Terminator left arms to be very useful...

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chaos-Terminator-Lord-Left-Extended-Arm-w-Open-End-Bit-Warhammer-40K-GW-Space-M-/380521225682?pt=Games_US&hash=item5898d51dd2

[Shi An De]

I just discovered Chapterhouse Studios today. They sell a magnetised combi weapon set. Basically it's a bolter, with one each of combi melta, plasma, flamer and grenade launcher. The bolter is magnetised (they include the magnet and the bolter is allarently pre-drilled) so you can swap out weapo s as you like. They sell the bits separately too, although without the magnets.

 

My only concern is that apparently there has been litigation between Chapterhouse and Gw and I don't know the result.

[infyrana]

When figuring out how to gear my recently purchased TDA WG, I had the same concern whenever I read these forums for ideal loadouts.

 

I purchased a single box of TDA WG, plus additional torso and legs for a total of 10 models (so many arm options I knew I could make up a full group). I've magnetised all the bodies/arms, plus a spare storm bolter arm or two I had giving me about 7 so that I may make a few combi plasma. I've also magnetised the sword/axe/bolter/hammer seperate from the single left and right handless-arm and added an additional storm bolter from the PA Captain sprue, plus I've done the same with the shields so that if I get more PWeapons, I can add them later. I've rigged up one of the Chaos Havoc launchers via magnet on one of them for my CML option. I have several spare SM Termie LClaws, so will create a few right handed chainfists to go with the Stormshield/PFist option.

 

If I finally get my second box of TWC, I'll probably use the Axe head from the second axe and switch it with one of the TH heads, sadly the hand/handle are a bit undersized to look right - which is the problem with most all the axes I've come across. I need to look through my spare swords for options to see if anything fits there - so far I can only see a spare command champion left handed sword which looks big enough to magnetise onto the SH arms.

 

Above and beyond this I'm quite lost too, and to think my bits boxes are swimming with spares. I figured worst case scenary - Power Fist and Wolf Claw as options instead of Sword / Axe.

[MoleMantle]

I've been looking at using the base WG box set and ebaying grey knight arms (the picture of skagen42's minis really helped show that it would work!) and you can get a set of storm bolter arms and the right arms (minus hands) for £4.99ish. Not sure what posting links to eBay on the site is like so this is the image:

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Space-Marine-Grey-Knight-Terminator-Arms-Hands-and-Storm-Bolters-bits-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqV,!k0FClETyYG)BQ)bo7GKdw~~60_12.JPG

 

But a bit of filing and green stuff and you can have the fancy GK bits covered in no time

 

Also you can then buy the nemesis force swords which I was just going to use as power swords and try to wangle some axes from somewhere, sanguinary guard bits have some tasty looking axes but not sure how the scale would work to termies.

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Space-Marine-Blood-Angel-Sanguinary-Guard-Close-Combat-Weapons-bits-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqV,!icF!H365E)hBQF9f0(PmQ~~60_12.JPG

[skeletoro]

The scale works really well for those sanguinary guard axes. I bought some of those off Ebay.

 

Still waiting to find a good use for that two handed sword... I'm currently leaning towards converting a "Kor'Sarro Khan was a Wolf Lord, Moondrakkan was a Thunderwolf, Moonfang was a Frost Blade" model to lead some TWC... Not sure though!

[Grey Mage]

See... I combined them with the Tactical TDA box set instead of the assault TDA box set- got all the stormbolters and heavy weapons I could want. I think thats more of the way to go than with the assault terminators for your money.

 

Though I admit, to few powerweapons overall. Gotta scratchbuild for those- and theres plenty of good ideas floating around here on that end.

[skeletoro]

See... I combined them with the Tactical TDA box set instead of the assault TDA box set- got all the stormbolters and heavy weapons I could want. I think thats more of the way to go than with the assault terminators for your money.

 

Though I admit, to few powerweapons overall. Gotta scratchbuild for those- and theres plenty of good ideas floating around here on that end.

 

Definitely. The cyclone ebays for the price of like 3-4 axes!

[irwit]

Though I admit, to few powerweapons overall. Gotta scratchbuild for those- and theres plenty of good ideas floating around here on that end.

 

Got any links? Ive ordered some GK hands for a quid on ebay to use on storm shield arms. Im also thinking the clenched power fist could easily be holding a power weapon. So I have my brass rod for the axe shaft I just need some ideas for the head :)