Kastor Krieg Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Sammy is a character when he's on the Corvex jetbike. When he gets into the Land Speeder though, what happens then? Is that a vehicle that is a character, like Bjorn? Or is the character embarked upon the Land Speeder? Can he disembark then, if the Land Speeder is wrecked / destroyed? Or can he simply not go on foot at all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 The only thing that changed for Sammy in this addition is that he is an independent character while on his jetbike. The speeder has a totally different profile. The speeder is a vehicle, not a transport vehicle. No he can not get out of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3284869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azoriel Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 When playing Sammy with landspeeder, he's a vehicle character ala Bjorn - he stays in the vehicle the whole time (just like the pilot and gunner for any other landspeeder). If the speeder goes down, he goes down with it. (Storywise, he might have survived the crash and just be stuck in the wreck, but that's beyond the scope of the wargame rules.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3284895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Don't let anyone fool you. Sammy is a goose. He therefore counts as a monstruous creature and he lays eggs wherever he passes. Remember to have every enemy model that passes through his trail of explosive eggs take 9d6 S4 AP2 hits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3285020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
publius Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Is he allowed to join vehicle squadrons, such as a Ravenwing support squadron, or does he lose Independent character in speeder form? If it's the former it allows him to screen a lot of fragile vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3285034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheezeFezt Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Is he allowed to join vehicle squadrons, such as a Ravenwing support squadron, or does he lose Independent character in speeder form? If it's the former it allows him to screen a lot of fragile vehicles. Sammy on Sableclaw only change the Unit Type from Jetbike (Character) to Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer). Have no idea if that means he still retain his Independent Character special rules, Scouts, Skilled Rider, Inner Circle, etc. If he still retain his IC special rule, IC can not join vehicle squadron nor any units that always of a single model (such as most vehicles and Monstrous Creatures). But they can join other IC. So if he still retain his IC, Sableclaw can join a command squad . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3288420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Sableclaw has a different profile than Corvex and it doesn't include IC under its special rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3288427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Sableclaw has a different profile than Corvex and it doesn't include IC under its special rules. Yep, that about sums it up for him. He's just a 14/14/10 Land Speeder, not a character when he's on Sableclaw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269687-sammy-is-he-a-vehicle-or-in-a-vehicle-or-what/#findComment-3288467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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