Fallen Avenger Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Am i reading the new 'dex correctly? im reading that we can take 82 Terminators and 9 LAND RAIDERS? heres how im working it out; the first 2 would be belial and another termy hq choice the next 10 would be 5 for each in a command squad for hq choices the next 30 are elites and with belial he grants Termys as troops! so an extra 40! Thank god we van now field 10 in a Termy squad! oh and each Termy unit can have a Land raider as a dedicated transport? does that mean we could have an extra 3 for hq choices? making that 12 LAND RAIDERS!!! if im reading this correctly? then my local GW is goint o miss out on a few quid as ill be going straight to rockethobbies to start builing my basket im at 46 Termys at the minute and have 3 land raiders also. So shouldnt be too long then!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 hahaha... i mean holy bejesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Avenger Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 well am i wrong like? i have just come of the back of a 70 hour week and its the first thing ive done since finishing work so im propbably very wrong just need some clarification like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 ok then dw termies as troop choice is 60 termies the termies upgrade..15 for the eilite choice belial plus termie captain plus hq choice squads 10 i got 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehoel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Actually, if points are not an issue, we can do 102 terminators with 11 Land Raiders. Belial with a Deathwing command squad (5+1) and Land Raider Another TDA HQ with Deathwing command Squad (5+1) and Land Raider 3 Deathwing Knights squads at 10 each (30 total) each with a Land Raider 6 Deathwing Squads as troops at 10 each (60 total) each with a Land Raider So, as I said 102 terminators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You can do 9 DW units of 10. That's 90. Then you can take 2 HQ in TDA then both of those can have a DWCS of 5 so.... 102 by accounts of basic FOC 2 HQ 3 Elites 6 Troops........... And 9 land raiders for the 6 troops and 3 elites. for the DWCS there would be 2 more. NINJA'D by Jehoel........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Avenger Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 why did you get 15 termys for elites? they can still take 10 each squad and am a correct on the LR's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehoel Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Read my last post above. 11 LR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I got 11 too. I just forgot to post the LRs so I added them in an edit. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You don't know how close I am to this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I have like 70 TDA (like maybe 30-40 aren't magnetized/assembled to varied stages of assembly.) and looking to get more as soon as I can. and 2 not assembled Phobos (current GW model) Land raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You can do 9 DW units of 10. That's 90. Then you can take 2 HQ in TDA then both of those can have a DWCS of 5 so.... 102 by accounts of basic FOC 2 HQ 3 Elites 6 Troops........... And 9 land raiders for the 6 troops and 3 elites. 2 for the DWCSs and 3 more for HS slot. So 102 TDA and 14 LRs with just one FOC However for the points this would cost we will be able to have Double Org so Double this........? I fixed it! I am the champion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Belial makes Deathwing a Troops choice only, not a Troops and Elites choice. So... 60 for 6 x 10 DW Squads as Troops, 10 more for for 2 x 5 DW Command Squads, and 30 more for 3 x 10 DW Knights. Each of these 11 DW Squads can also have Land Raiders as Dedicated Transports, plus you can add 3 more Land Raiders as Heavy Support choices. So, our grand total of Terminators/Land Raiders in a single FOC is... Terminators: 102 Land Raiders : 14 Edit: somewhat ninja'd you might say. That what I get for being distracted by the tv. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 That looks like about 9,000 points. I think most games at that size will stop worrying about the force org chart. It's pretty cool that we can do it however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven of the Wing Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 this is very interesting, and at the risk of going off topic, can someone do the same thing with a greenwing list or a ravenwing list. same rules as above, 1 FoC, sticking to a company style loadout for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As Termies can't Combat Squad, doesn't that preclude taking Raiders as DTs for 10 man squads? I seem to recall something along these lines in an (admittedly oldish) FAQ. May be misremembering, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 To my remembrance currently you can take them. Just like with a 10 man Tac squad and giving them the Razorback. You don't have to combat squad them, in the case of the Tac. All it means is that you can't get in if you have too many models. Also keep in mind you are not limited to just LR you can LRR and LRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cielaq Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Confirmed - no limit of squad size is given for LR as dedicated transport in DW entry. "Deathwing Terminator Squad may select a Land Raider of any type as Dedicated Transport (pg 104)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 To my remembrance currently you can take them. Just like with a 10 man Tac squad and giving them the Razorback. You don't have to combat squad them, in the case of the Tac. All it means is that you can't get in if you have too many models. Also keep in mind you are not limited to just LR you can LRR and LRC. Just checked the FAQ: you're absolutely right. Nothing to see here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasmaspam Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 At work so purely off the top of my head... Full Greenwing battle company 100+6+6 marines, 8 rhinos, 2 razors = 3000-ish points. FOC uses 2hq, 6 troop, 2fa, 2hs. Add another 2 techmarines each with 5 servitors if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion El Jason Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 102 Terminators and 14 land raiders from 1 FOC... OMG I have this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You gotta run it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion El Jason Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Playing apocalypse soon against ~13k of orks. I am fielding the Deathwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 DW Turns: 30 minutes long Ork Turns: 3 hours long Better bring a book to read, or models to paint. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 DW Turns: 30 minutes long Ork Turns: 3 hours long Better bring a book to read, or models to paint. Yup. I played a 13.5k two players per side apocalypse game before Christmas. DA plus IG vs assorted Xenos - the scenario was set around childcare arrangements - Xenos has first turn, DA were fully reserved and didn't start arriving until day 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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