nurglespuss Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hi guys, I've started playing again in 6th ed after one of my long hiatus' . In our recent practice games a couple of things popped up: In orks/blood angels, does the attack stat in the profile already include the bonus for having 2 ccw? When hit by a template weapon behind cover, fo you get a cover save? Is a crozius now a power maul? When casualties are remove in assaults is it the same as shooting (i.e. must remove those in base to base/2 inches? Is scatter always d6 - bs? Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 - In orks/blood angels, does the attack stat in the profile already include the bonus for having 2 ccw? No, unless theres a bracket behind the value, like e.g. for the DC dread: A 3(4). This means he has 3 attacks base and 4 thanks to his second ccw. -When hit by a template weapon behind cover, fo you get a cover save? If it's not a barrage weapon, you determine coversaves from the shooter as usual. Barrage weapons however determine coversaves from the center of the template. -Is a crozius now a power maul? yes -When casualties are remove in assaults is it the same as shooting (i.e. must remove those in base to base/2 inches? Yes. You must start allocating wounds to models that are in b2b with a model that has struck at the current initiative step. Then allocate to the next closest ones. - Is scatter always d6 - bs? It's 2d6-BS (unless barrage weapons that fire indirectly, they always scatter 2D6). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thank you :) everything I thought, cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 template weapons DO ignorecover. blast weapons do not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Well it depends, true, I wasn't quite accurate. The flamer template does ignore cover, but the blast templates don't, sorry :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Remember there are 3 'tools' for blasts and templates. There is the small blast MARKER, the larger blast MARKER and the TEMPLATE. The TEMPLATE specifically refers to only the 8" tear drop shaped tool. According to page 52 of the main rule book, all TEMPLATE weapons have the IGNORES COVER special rule. Examples of TEMPLATE weapons include flamers and inferno cannons. See page 56 (right column) to see the format in which TEMPLATE will be designated (in the Range column of a weapon profile). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Well I'm from switzerland so I only have a german rulebook and codex, but it's interesting to know that "template" only refers to the flame-shaped one (doesn't make that much sense to me at least, the other things could be called templates as well, right?). In the german version, it's always referred to as something similar to "flame template" or just "flame". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venemox Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thanks for the info, Ushtarador. I always find it interesting to see the differences in translation of the same editions rules across different languages. In the English book, Template is it's own special section and set of rules (page 52), and blasts are called markers (page 6). The English version has a Special Rule called Blast & Large Blast that dictates the usage of the 3" and 5" markers and a callout box for Barrage (pages 33 and 34, respectively). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269975-simple-rule-question/#findComment-3289384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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