Nova_Dew Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Please bear with me this could be a long unorganized mess First point: Where are the psychic hoods? are they a later advancement or will they be for the 1K Sons? Second point: Other than the 1K Sons and possibly the Word Bearers that i know about all the other legions that turned were anti psyker did the Chaos gods plan that in any way? and since the 1K Sons kind of turned traitor not from what they mostly believed but by Horus playing Russ in an attempt to kill Magnus... do they count as Traitors from an out side point of view? Third ramble: What was the planned out come of the Big E's plans? other than an age of enlightenment and progress i can think of three others... 1) A Psyker controlled dictatorship cull the weak ones and the strong get stronger through evolution. 2) Eternal War historically humanity has progressed fastest while in conflict so why not create a empire that has no defense against chaos so the race will have a common enemy to fight while he controls how the race advances. 3) He was the ultimate chaos agent: he makes a empire that has next to no defenses against them, basically allows half his forces to turn against him and by that act of rebellion turns the universe into a play ground for the chaos gods (Constant conflict for Khorn, Death and decay for Nergul, Conspiracies for Tzench and basic human decadence for Slanesh) Basically random post of nonsense that came into my head.. please bash, flame, delete as needed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 point 1, i dont know either point 2, thats a long debate. I see them as traitors because they had disobeyed the Emperor twice at that point. point 3, only the Emperor himself knows. what we do know is that he planned on opening a imperial webgate, and decreasing Humanity's reliance on navigators and psykers. (that plan was nixed by Magnus), and by exterminating all outside threats (xenos) and having the Legions around to police the Imperium (atleast the least crazy ones), I can see him freeing humanity from outside forces, but keeping them on a leash of sorts. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 1) Psychic Hoods were definately around before the HH. They are mentioned in Fear to Tread. 2) Death Guard were anti-psyker (or rather Mortarion was - still his second in command was in fact a psyker). World Eaters became anti-psyker once they found their RAAAGE. Emperor's Children didn't really like psyker but weren't one of the big psyker haters either. And we really don't know what the Iron Warriors, Sons of Horus, Night Lords or Alpha Legion thought about psykers, do we? 3) We will never know. I think he was trying to advance humanity and was considering psykers to be the next evolutionary step while still being cautious about their destructive potential. (But I like your third theory the best ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 The Alpha Legion thinks that psykers are...useful... Deliverance Lost mentions psykers helping to transfer memories of the dead Raven Guards to the operatives, and in The Serpent Beneath a psyker is one of the main opponents (the other being the awesome commander Janic). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 3) Back in 2nd edition it was explicit that the Emperor's ultimate plan was to shepherd humanity's evolution to a fully psychic species. Until that time humanity was very vulnerable to corruption by the dark gods but eventually humanity would be able stand on its own and realise its destiny as a stable galaxy-spanning civilisation. Like the eldar once were, but more successful. I haven't seen anything more recent that contradicts this, its just much more mysterious now. Probably because it makes for good drama in the Horus Heresy novels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Angel Scout Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 One thing that's just came to mind about the Imperial Webway, wouldn't this decrease the abilities of psykers as it essentially cuts them off from the warp? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 One thing that's just came to mind about the Imperial Webway, wouldn't this decrease the abilities of psykers as it essentially cuts them off from the warp? It doesn't do such a thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepaca Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 One thing that's just came to mind about the Imperial Webway, wouldn't this decrease the abilities of psykers as it essentially cuts them off from the warp? Does the Eldar webway decrease their psychic potential? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/269990-librarians-hoods-who-really-won-and-other-heretical-musing/#findComment-3289963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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