MustangTC Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Now before you true blooded wolven start howling in fury at the concept this is a purely power gaming concept. Ok... The new Dark Angels flyer has a stasis bomb that reduces enemy units' initiative by 3. Combine that with up to 4 Jaws bombs and what do you have? -MustangTC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balinor Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Sounds like an excellent way to get the ol' drednaught in a sock upside your head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3289996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 You end up with no friends that will play you I believe. GS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crazywolf Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 That sounds nasty, but I agree it will probably be justification for an exterminatussock to the head. And not many would play against you afterwards. I personally would consider that WAAC and for me take the spirit from the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azatoth Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Now before you true blooded wolven start howling in fury at the concept this is a purely power gaming concept. Ok... The new Dark Angels flyer has a stasis bomb that reduces enemy units' initiative by 3. Combine that with up to 4 Jaws bombs and what do you have? -MustangTC Another player who puts powerplay over fluff? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 does it change the profile I or not? because jaws is made against profile I without modifiers if i recall correctly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Now before you true blooded wolven start howling in fury at the concept this is a purely power gaming concept. Ok... The new Dark Angels flyer has a stasis bomb that reduces enemy units' initiative by 3. Combine that with up to 4 Jaws bombs and what do you have? -MustangTC Another player who puts powerplay over fluff? I do not believe so, not that there would be anything wrong with such a thing. GS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Now before you true blooded wolven start howling in fury at the concept this is a purely power gaming concept. Ok... The new Dark Angels flyer has a stasis bomb that reduces enemy units' initiative by 3. Combine that with up to 4 Jaws bombs and what do you have? -MustangTC I dont know what would you have? I dont know the rules but judginigby peoples reaction, not something nice I pressume? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I think this is a pure rules question- Does it work? Now, granted, I'm going to echo the calls that this should never be done outside of the 'aardest (Pardon my orkish :)) of tournaments, and even then you should expect dirty looks. But does it work (If only so that if it doesn't, we can set the record straight here and now)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crazywolf Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Without too much experience under my belt, games are few and far between, it sounds like it would work in theory. I would say that the test is taken against the modified value. Without seeing the rules for the bomb or a faq for that matter. If, for example, someone were to attempt to hit you after a long night in the pub, would you react the same as stone sober? I would say your reaction would be slowed. That would be my logic. I am also not current on the rules so take my musings with a grain of salt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 If you can snipe a character with JotWW after their Initiative is reduced from Arjac's hammer at range, then I fail to see how this setup is different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3290212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangTC Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 There's a less beardy but synergistic option in the telekenises line too I've seen. Assail I believe it's called which is an 18" beam with strike down. Strike down is a lesser known status that halves a models initiative if they take a wound (saved or not). Ergo, 2 rune priests, one assails the other jaws(es). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3291088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I see nothing wrong with this one trick pony. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3291115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crazywolf Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think that the big hang up for me is that the entire unit gets the reduction. Strike down is a beam template and Arjac is sniping. Something like the OP is talking about would allow for complete decimation of an entire unit. I would treat this less of a deathstar and more of a synergy thing. Doesn't sound like it would be cheap either. 4x rune priests and that flyer put it outside of the 2k points range. At least in my opinion. It could be done, but i think it would be too point intensive for me. Too many eggs in one basket. I would revise my opinion of the tactic to say that while nasty it has a time and a place. I wouldn't use it in a friendly game. And I think that it would be hard to use it in a tourney setup. Apoc games? That is a slightly different story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3291458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 And then you faced an Eldar player with Runes of Warding......bwah, bwahm bwaaaah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3291461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crazywolf Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 True enough Ramses. Again it looks to be situation based. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270046-dark-blasphemous-wolves/#findComment-3291477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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