shin-ryu-ken Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I would like my Daemon Prince to be the size of a normal marine, I see him as being an epic super skilled beast, just not super size. Sort of like a saint. I don't think he will wear armour and will have a robe. Do you think anyone would have a problem with this? I plan to have him on the same base as a Daemon prince with lots of flowing ribbons and hair and stuff so it will be roughly the same size as a whole. As a side, I would like him to be able to fly but I don't want to give him wings. If I have him levitating do you think anyone would have a problem with it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Holy crap man, like quadrouple (or was it 5) topics? Anyway, I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as the extra stuff (hair, ribbons, whatever) measured up to about the same height as an actual prince. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3294650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 One of my DP's is scarcley larger than a terminator, but I have him standing on a corpse-cart surrounded by Nurglings. I would reccomend that you do something similar, put him on a large rocky outcropping or a pile of dismembered space marines. That will make him the height of a regular DP and also make him look awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3294694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Some people will have issues with this because it can fall under the "modelling for advantage" paradigm. After all, regardless of the fluff behind the character, his rules still say that he is a monstrous creature and must be appropriately sized and be on an appropriately sized base. Personally I like the "standing atop a huge pile of mangled bodies" idea. Then you still get the model at a proper height while showing off his epicbadassery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3294699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Fluffwise, I see no problem at all, as Daemon Princes can be of any size. And I really enjoy conversions, so I'm fine. Yet, clearly, modelling for advantage must be avoided. Nobody wants to see SM heads glued on bases because "they are shoulder deep in the mud". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3294761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shin-ryu-ken Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Lol sorry about the extra posts, phone playing up combined with me being retarded! Yeah that's what I really want to avoid, I'm not modelling for advantage, I barely play to be honest. It's just to fit with my fluff. My warband is based roughly on Asian myths and stuff, and I want my Prince to be a bit like Asura from Asura's wrath but with a stylised Asian style halo. Guess I could do a big Oni type guy that I could use if someone has a problem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3294790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz431 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 It's not that we have a problem with it, because we still see it as,"It's your hobby. Build what makes you happy." But if you want to use it in game it needs to be based properly at most. An idea to build up for it is to glue the basic marine base on a terminator base upon a prince base that would set him up higher thank at without much worry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3294887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 i really like the idea of a daemon prince thats still small having just changed. it would be a great model to have to swap out for a character that boons into a prince. i was thinking of converting either astorath or the sanguinor to be a lord or something but i think i might go with the prince idea now. especially the sanguinor, hes kinda being lifter off the ground spreading his arms in benediction, i could see him converted to being literally mid transformation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3295026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I miss the old Daemon Princes...where being a Monstrous Creature was an upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3295092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 My friend has a Slaaneshi daemon prince that is based off a converted marine bits + Sigvald the pretty boy (or whatever the fantasy guy is called) so he is roughly marine size, maybe as tall as a terminator, but not as chunky. He has a pair of fairly large wings going up behind him, but they don't look like they are being used. He also has some flowing robes which again make him take up more space. He has a flying stand stuck into one of his feet and it looks like he is walking on the air. He is supposed to represent pride and has an arrogant look. He then has 6 noise marine squads (of 6) that represent the other 6 deadly sins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3295204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 He'll still need to be on a 60mm base. I'd model the dude floating in the air, or standing atop a pile of rubble & corpses, to get the right height, and then try and add bits to fill him out some - long flowing robe, little daemons or cervo skull type things floating around him streaming ribbons, cords, or cables, maybe wings, etc, so that altogether he's about as visible/targetable as a daemon prince should be. Regardless, it wouldn't bother me too much, but you might run into problems with some others if the model seems to grant you particular gameplay advantages, or if it doesn't look awesome enough to justify the deviation from the norm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3295794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 If the model is on a 60mm base (which he said he was going to do) and is appropriately modeled heightwise then opponents should not have anything to complain about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3295805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Steel Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Seriously- just use this model, replace religious iconography with chaos runes, give her some horns and you're done.http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/the-protectorate-of-menoth/warcasters/harbinger-of-menoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3296222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaz431 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Minus the fact that in most GW ran tournament settings your models generally have to be approximately 75% GW parts. Sooooo, I do not suggest doing that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3296473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Steel Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Well, at least use it/ the pose for inspiration, it's a kick ass model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3297053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Minus the fact that in most GW ran tournament settings your models generally have to be approximately 75% GW parts. Sooooo, I do not suggest doing that. But that's only a concern if you actually participate in GW tournaments. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270479-alternate-style-daemon-prince/#findComment-3297077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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