company veteran Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Good day fellow brothers.. i am in need of your assistance regarding the appearance of my death company. let me explain my idea... I play lamenters and in the BA codex it states that they have claimed to have cured the red thirst/black rage.. however it also states that this claim could be backfiring on them as they are having issues with their geneseed. I feel that the Lamenters have found a way to surpress their gene flaws, but its not 100% sucessful and a handful of battle brothers end up going the opposite way.. turning into completely crazed psychos..even more so than regular death company. these marines are simply known as 'the lost' affected marines are swiftly placed into stasis chambers until they can be unleashed upon the battlefield to cause carnage.. because of this idea i want: a small sized death company to represent the handful brothers that do sucumb to the black rage. regular yellow armour.. but very chipped/damaged. i figure crazed marines wont be sitting around whistling and painting their armour a nice shade of black. chipped up weapons and chainswords with missing teeth.. the lost dont treat their weapons with much care wildly hacking at enemies and armour alike. bolt pistols chained to their wrists.. these stop the lost from simply dropping their side arms.. and many of the lost end up using their bolt pistol and chain as a rudimentary flail. extremely dynamic posing.. charging forward into hails of bullets etc SO GUYS.... PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS IDEA.. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorAM Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I like it, especially the bold pistol flail idea. It would make a cool conversion and you can use BT bits for the others. The chipped armor could be ok to mark them as the lost ones, but on the table top you really want something to stand out as different from the rest of the army. In addition, I'd suggest making them extra grisly with severed heads as trophies almost chaos like. O and blood, lots and lots of blood! Red really will stand out against the yellow armor :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen_2 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 This is actually a really awesome idea! You're concept is very cool and feels a bit more realistic then what is the status quo. My only suggestion is maybe dirty the armor up with blood and dirt since there is not enough time to clean their stuff. Now that I think of it another cool idea is maybe taking some weapons and using them the wrong way. For example have a marine holding his bolter like a club bashing someones face in. That would be sick Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 One of the things that I love about the Lamenters was the supposed cure to the Red Thirst/Black Rage (albeit with the flipside of horrible luck etc), and now it has been retconed to "they're turning the same way as the FT/FE/BA etc" I do like your ideas a lot. Whilst I've seen other Lamenter armies with conventional DC's (as in Black), a yellow one that is even more bat poo crazy than usual is something I'd love to see As well as having damaged armour and weapons, perhaps some...improvised weapons could be apt too. I can just imagine a Lamenter DC Marine losing, or breaking a Chainsword and having torn off an Orks arm for example, decides that it'll suffice as a temporary club, especially if it was a Bionik one Just thought, if you're able to, perhaps having a few Marines bare headed with Vampire heads to show how far they've gone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Maybe black helmets so they stand out more on the table top? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 thanks for the ideas guys.. blood is a great idea as i have a desire to break out my tamiya clear red. i want to avoid trophies.. i feel that they dont have time for anything but killing.. improvised weapons is a good idea.. have to rummage through my bits box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Doh, you stole my Idea! it is awesome, to not have black DC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 @sevenexxes: i plan on making them in a way that they really stand out anyway.. but maybe some red crosses in blood. im painting a test model right now.. im gonna try not to overdo it with the blood Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 another idea is that falling to the black rage stops the denial of their geneseed and with the acceptance of their heritage they stop being unlucky! maybe some of the guys go on to survive ridiculous odds and some have even survived for several campaigns.. waiting in stasis between each battle.. armour and weapons completely mauled. the rest of the lamenters see their presence on the battlefield as fortuitous but also with great sadness.. the only way to cure their misfortune is through insanity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3294993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson Cartel Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Maybe all grey armor a la Garro and the other Knights Errant from the HH series? If the Lamenters have "cured" the gene flaw, then there is a high probability of them not wanting the real truth exposed. So marines with no paint, no chapter markings, no unit markings etc... My 2 -CC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 again.. the afflicted marines must be kept in stasis. there is no chance to repaint there armour. the idea is to make them stand out through the amount of battle damage and blood on them.. plus they will be very dynamic so that they stand out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 @sevenexxes: i plan on making them in a way that they really stand out anyway.. but maybe some red crosses in blood. im painting a test model right now.. im gonna try not to overdo it with the blood Sweet, look forward to seeing it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulochromis Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 modelling opportunity: converted drop pod - the five doors open to reveal 5 stasis chambers, or 4 if they're accompanied by a relatively sane chaplain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 that is an amazing idea... it would only work as a modeling project for me but i love the idea Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 ok test model is done.. let me know guys... sorry bout the blurriness..will take better pics tomorrow. front, chipped power sword,heavily damaged armour, blood. http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u531/company_veteran/114E8A60-56A9-4691-B472-DF12A41B7C32-263-0000005951EA8E76.jpg side, chest bullet wound, more damage and chipping, blood,chained bolt pistol. http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u531/company_veteran/9AFC9F60-EDC1-4098-8A2A-6460B271BF65-263-00000059A21552CB.jpg top, missing eye, cleaved shoulder pad and plenty of gore. http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u531/company_veteran/8A2DFEFD-66A7-4BF3-8D26-84CA3E14A439-263-00000059E7C7D11D.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen_2 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 That is cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spafe Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I dont think theres any chance of them being mistaken for normal lamentors...khorne berserkers maybe, but reg tactical or assult marines, I think not lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Great idea and look :) Dont forget that in IA9+10, the captive Lamenters are rumoured to be going insane due to there "captivity". How much the red thirst/black rage affects every brother is unknown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 i feel that when they were in space prison(!) their sanguinary priests would be unable to take the neccesary steps to repress the geneseed of the battle brothers. since they got out (for good behaviour) the priests are back to trying to get rid of black rage..it just goes wrong horribly sometimes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I love this idea. Of the Death Co. marine just auto placed in stasis. I never like the fluff explanation of a Chaplain walking the rank and chanting til one of the marines started to scream then they escort him to get a different paint job. I feel this is more the lines of how it happens. Nice test mini. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Thanks.. I feel the same way obviously.. Once you rage then you need to be contained.. Loaded onto stasis cells on a storm raven, flown into a battlefield, drop the assault ramp, chaplain turns off the stasis cells and steps back quickly then follows them out to 'Shepard' them from enemy to enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Test mini looks great. Only thing I would suggest is some different types of battle damage, at present he does look like he's been through the wars, but something like bullet holes or claw marks would really emphasise that he and the others have been in harms way and have slaughtered their way clear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 umm... he does have a few bullet holes and gouges.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3295977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jønke Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 He looks great. Just the right amount of blood and gore. Also beside your other great ideas you could let a few of them use torn of limb as weapons? Nothing screams out madness like clubbing some xenoscum to pieces with his comrades arm. I was thinking of trying to make a dc marine armed with a metal pipe i figured he found on the battlefield after he broke his chainsword from beating up his enemys a bit to hard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270510-brothers-i-need-your-help/#findComment-3296438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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